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Re: US Presidential elections 2016

by Aurora Bulkualis » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:55 am

Yeah I used to watch Apprentice way back when....freaking weird

Re: US Presidential elections 2016

by Pjetër » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:41 pm

It's crazy that ten years ago I was at Ford Field watching Donald Trump shave Vince McMahon's head and now he's president.

Re: US Presidential elections 2016

by Migjeni » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:07 am

Which proves that the poor didn't vote for Trump.

Re: US Presidential elections 2016

by Aurora Bulkualis » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:37 pm

What you're referring is blue collar workers. Poor is used in the sense of people below middle class.

Re: US Presidential elections 2016

by Migjeni » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:38 pm

It's a myth that Trump was elected by 'the poor' and it's a myth that needs to die.
Majority of those in that group didn't even vote.

Trump was elected by the working class. The working class does not belong to the group of poor people in the US.

The numbers do not lie. You can look at the numbers from (white) working class neighbourhoods throughout the US. Macomb County is an example - the populous 'car worker' neighbourhood in Detroit, where everyone is in a union and is paid around 50k a year or more on average in the factories. Obama won by +4 in 2012, while Trump won +12. That's a difference of +16.

In areas where half or more than half of the jobs require relatively short educations which will be easy to replace by machines or are easily moved to other countries; Unskilled factory work, shops, agriculture, simple office work etc. Trump got +35 of the votes. In areas where less than 40% of the work is "routine"
Clinton got 30%.

Trump's voters are on average paid more than the average American.

Read more here: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... share&_r=1

And look at this:

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Re: US Presidential elections 2016

by Mbreti i Kosoves » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:51 am

Migjeni wrote:^^ Lol. The poor voted for Clinton. Stop just repeating bs which data has debunked.
Are you still referring to the "exit polls" you know the same pollsters that predicted a Hilary Clinton landslide?

Regardless if we assume your assertion is true and the exit polls are correct then she might have won the "poor" vote since 85-90% of African Americans vote Democrat and something like 60-70% of hispanics vote democrat, and these groups tend to be "poorer" But overall she lost the lower to middle class white vote. This was the group I was referring to.

Re: US Presidential elections 2016

by Aurora Bulkualis » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:15 am

Migjeni wrote:^^ Lol. The poor voted for Clinton. Stop just repeating bs which data has debunked.
Not true. Clinton's voters made up 2/3 (64%) of America's GDP. Al Gore in 2000 got 54%.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... 3cb1a76f5b

Re: US Presidential elections 2016

by Simboli i Diellit » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:51 am

Always wanted Gjader to become a civil airport because it's just 10 min form Lezhe but it seems NATO might have other plans. From the article :" Albanians are reliable Allies"

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/13581524

Re: US Presidential elections 2016

by Migjeni » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:33 am

^^ Lol. The poor voted for Clinton. Stop just repeating bs which data has debunked.

Re: US Presidential elections 2016

by Mbreti i Kosoves » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:20 am

I hate to be the guy that claims to meet somewhere in the middle but most of the criticisms about Trump are correct as are most of the criticisms about Clinton. They were both terrible candidates. Personally I didn't care who won this election but the amount of smugness coming from the Democrats side was offputting. The Democrats have become the party of upper-middle middle class White elites + minorities voting via identity poltics and the republicans have taken over the poor to middle class white vote that the democrats once dominated.

I can't identify with the Left that has become the party of SJW, feminist and upper middle class white elites that think they aren't racist because they have a Polish Nanny and a Mexican that cuts their lawn. The right on the other hand has moved from the neo-cons that once dominated the party to more centrist economically and even socially (hey who would of though bible-belters would of voted for a man that hasn't read the bible and has had two ex-wives.) I dislike Trump's plans on the wall, eliminating Estate/Gift tax, increasing our military, providing YUGGEEE tax breaks to the rich etc. but atleast these are some positions where compromise can be made.

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