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Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]

by Aurora Bulkualis » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:47 am

Btw, the only way we're getting relegated is if Cyprus wins against Norway, and Montenegro wins against Romania. Odds are one of them is at least going to tie.

Only one 3rd placed team will be relegated, and since we're technically 3rd, we're part of that group. Also, they're discounting all the points against the last placed team for 4-team groups, that's why Montenegro/Cyprus only have 1 point.

Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]

by Aurora Bulkualis » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:26 am

Is this game any different than the time we lost 0-3 to Israel with De Biasi? This was an exact repeat of that scenario. Dumb mistake in the first few minutes, and had to play with 10 players the whole time.

The worst part is that it's always our starting defenders who make these dumb mistakes. First Djimsiti, then Mavraj. Both of them are extremely error prone. Hopefully Ismajli doesn't make those dumb errors. Gym-gym is just a bad defender. Too bad we have no one else. Ajeti is gone, and Dermaku shouldn't even be a pro footballer.

Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]

by artan » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:39 am

RedFootballs wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:54 am
Princ wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:32 am
Aurora Bulkualis wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:46 pm
To be fair to Panucci, not scoring away is understandable considering how bad our frontline is. And we could have scored this game, if Mavraj wasn't an idiot and ended the game early.
I feel bad for panucci too, the team was falling apart before he even got here. Wrong time wrong place for him. You can tell he’s trying but there’s not too much he can do with this group of players. He fielded our best line today (other than memushaj) and other than subbing off memushaj instead of kace there was literally nothing better he could of done for us. The new group of players (grezda, Mihaj, ismajli) is not that bad but we’ve had bad luck consistently put together with the gdb players getting too old or injured and this is what we have. Another coach won’t make it much better either. Btw what happened to abrashi, feels like he’s been injured since the Romania game lol
Exactly. He took over a sinking ship and is being unfairly criticised and harassed by the media as if they think that our players are gods. De Biasi had our full pool of talent to deal with this, and always played the same team. Panucci has actually found new players and brought in new talent. He tinkers way too much and hasn't found a actual game plan to stick to yet and that's a critical flaw, but what Albania needs the most is someone to discover new talent. If GDB had to deal with this we would have lost our games anyway, regardless of if it was 1-0 or 4-0.
I think there is no way out other than Panucci being fired but I feel sorry for him not knowing how demanding the job is with little resource, as well as no one giving him any praise for finding good players.

Di Biasi actually inherited a pretty much bad team when he was hired in 2012, much worst talent wise than the team Panucci inherited from Di Biasi. The dutch coach before DB didn't bother calling up new players and was starting Ervin Skela when he was like 38 years old and playing for a 5th division team (I'm not even joking about this).

The first thing DB did when he accepted the offer was calling up Mavraj, Kukeli and Alban Meha for that friendly against Qatar in 2012. For his first WC qualification cycle we were still starting guys like Bogdani, Salihi, Bulku, Curri, Teli (had a start against Norway when Cana was suspended), the legendary Emiljano Vila who was by FAR the most hated player back in our old forum, Gabon Lika (made a start against Iceland lol). To put in perspective Andi Lila back in 2013 was considered one of our best players but to his defense he was playing as a right back and he was actually decent at that position.

For that WC qualification campaign DB started to recruit alot of players. He must have called up something like 20-30 new players the first few years of his tenture. It wasn't until the start of the Euro Qualification Campaign that he found his core and stuck with it. But he wouldn't have found that if he didn't recruit a large pool and eliminate the rejects (example like Fidan Aliti, Azdren Lullaku, Agon Mehmeti, etc). Besides Uzuni and Binaku these are all Di Biasi players.

I do like how Panucci is trying recently to call up new players like Ismajli and Uzuni but he should have done this earlier. I've been saying this for a while but the core of the team is still the same team as that Euro team. We are still starting Balaj FFS. There are players out there. We make threads about this but yet the best guy they can find is Egli Kaja?

But it's clear Panucci has lost the team. Our results have been really bad. We are getting our shit kicked by the likes of Israel and Scotland. I get that we've been "unlucky" with weak penalty calls and mental errors but it's also a sign that the team isn't disciplined. This shit happens every fucking game.

We have a new stadium that's almost finished. Let's get a new coach and hopefully we can start that person on the right foot to generate some interest. Talent wise we aren't that bad as long as Grezda and Uzuni get playing time in their clubs. We just need a LB and a holding midfielder, we've never found a replacement for Kukeli.

Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]

by RedFootballs » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:54 am

Princ wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:32 am
Aurora Bulkualis wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:46 pm
To be fair to Panucci, not scoring away is understandable considering how bad our frontline is. And we could have scored this game, if Mavraj wasn't an idiot and ended the game early.
I feel bad for panucci too, the team was falling apart before he even got here. Wrong time wrong place for him. You can tell he’s trying but there’s not too much he can do with this group of players. He fielded our best line today (other than memushaj) and other than subbing off memushaj instead of kace there was literally nothing better he could of done for us. The new group of players (grezda, Mihaj, ismajli) is not that bad but we’ve had bad luck consistently put together with the gdb players getting too old or injured and this is what we have. Another coach won’t make it much better either. Btw what happened to abrashi, feels like he’s been injured since the Romania game lol
Exactly. He took over a sinking ship and is being unfairly criticised and harassed by the media as if they think that our players are gods. De Biasi had our full pool of talent to deal with this, and always played the same team. Panucci has actually found new players and brought in new talent. He tinkers way too much and hasn't found a actual game plan to stick to yet and that's a critical flaw, but what Albania needs the most is someone to discover new talent. If GDB had to deal with this we would have lost our games anyway, regardless of if it was 1-0 or 4-0.
I think there is no way out other than Panucci being fired but I feel sorry for him not knowing how demanding the job is with little resource, as well as no one giving him any praise for finding good players.

Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]

by Aurora Bulkualis » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:05 am

Princ wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:32 am
Aurora Bulkualis wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:46 pm
To be fair to Panucci, not scoring away is understandable considering how bad our frontline is. And we could have scored this game, if Mavraj wasn't an idiot and ended the game early.
I feel bad for panucci too, the team was falling apart before he even got here. Wrong time wrong place for him. You can tell he’s trying but there’s not too much he can do with this group of players. He fielded our best line today (other than memushaj) and other than subbing off memushaj instead of kace there was literally nothing better he could of done for us. The new group of players (grezda, Mihaj, ismajli) is not that bad but we’ve had bad luck consistently put together with the gdb players getting too old or injured and this is what we have. Another coach won’t make it much better either. Btw what happened to abrashi, feels like he’s been injured since the Romania game lol
De Biasi at least had Sadiku even last campaign. We've missed countless chances with Balaj upfront.

My only problem with Panucci is he tinkers way too fucking much. But the lineup this game wasn't bad. Mavraj just fucked it up.

Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]

by Princ » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:32 am

Aurora Bulkualis wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:46 pm
To be fair to Panucci, not scoring away is understandable considering how bad our frontline is. And we could have scored this game, if Mavraj wasn't an idiot and ended the game early.
I feel bad for panucci too, the team was falling apart before he even got here. Wrong time wrong place for him. You can tell he’s trying but there’s not too much he can do with this group of players. He fielded our best line today (other than memushaj) and other than subbing off memushaj instead of kace there was literally nothing better he could of done for us. The new group of players (grezda, Mihaj, ismajli) is not that bad but we’ve had bad luck consistently put together with the gdb players getting too old or injured and this is what we have. Another coach won’t make it much better either. Btw what happened to abrashi, feels like he’s been injured since the Romania game lol

Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]

by ZenMaster » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:55 am

Deni wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:51 pm
Should leave
Mavraj
Basha
Lila
Manaj
Binaku
Dermaku
Ndoj
Gavazaj

Who Should try and get a Call up
Florent Muslija
Elvis Rexhbecaj
Mertian Shabani
Taulant Seferi
Bastien Toma
Rexhbecaj,Shabani and Muslija will join Kosova when their "die mannschaft" dream will be over. Bastien Toma already is good enough to play for Switzerland. Nedim Bajrami comes from Ilirida but until Duka is gone Albania has no chance to recruit any decent prospect. Only likes of Dermaku or Ismajli are possible for the moment. Everyone is pointing finger at Panucci but it's Duka who must leave otherwise situation will get only worse.

Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]

by Deni » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:52 pm

Any chance of GDB coming back or no ?

Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]

by Deni » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:51 pm

Should leave
Mavraj
Basha
Lila
Manaj
Binaku
Dermaku
Ndoj
Gavazaj

Who Should try and get a Call up
Florent Muslija
Elvis Rexhbecaj
Mertian Shabani
Taulant Seferi
Bastien Toma

Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]

by Aurora Bulkualis » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:46 pm

To be fair to Panucci, not scoring away is understandable considering how bad our frontline is. And we could have scored this game, if Mavraj wasn't an idiot and ended the game early.

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