[Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

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Re: [Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

by Princ » Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:17 am

A win or a draw is considered a positive result for any team in football.

Albania was favored to win this match (home win most probable outcome in 3 way game), as it was played in Tirana. Georgia would have been favored to win, if it was played in Tbilisi. Both teams are on similar level, regardless of Albania rostering more super professionals..

Re: [Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

by Dallku » Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:01 am

^ Albania moneyline was pretty much even money. What was Georgias?

The fact that you think that a draw is a "positive" result for Georgia against Albanian reserves not only contradicts what you're saying about better players not mattering but it also proves that these teams have different levels and expectations.

Albania will be fighting to qualify for the Euros. Georgia will be fighting to not finish last in the group. Why? Because Albania has top leaguers and Georgia does not.

Re: [Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

by Princ » Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:07 am

Dallku wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:44 pm
Because it was a random friendly against Albanian reserves?? Albania was still favored to win by one goal. Odds were spot on.

Keep in mind that Albania still has to earn the respect of oddsmakers/public because its historical results are not good. Right now Albania can only be major favorites against the San Marinos of the world.
Load of nonsense..

Odds came out on the 28th, a day before lineups were released, and 1X2 tipped in favor of the home team right before the match. To put it simply, away had greater than ~55% chance of positive result on March 28th (~57% Bet365, when I posted it on page 2 of this thread, and ~60% at opening).

Albania was NOT favored to win by 1 goal either! How could it be so, when positive result away had ~55% chance probability pre-match? Impossible..

Re: [Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

by Dallku » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:44 pm

Princ wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:40 pm

If Georgia is not a serious team, why was Bet365 suggesting a positive result for them ~55% of the time, in our house?

It seems that the oddsmakers did not care much about how many super professionals Albania had rostered. Georgia and their bunch of scrubs playing in “the depths of Europe” would have been favored to win if the match was played in Tbilisi..

Do the experts here and on Facebook have a better grasp of the situation than Bet365?

Because it was a random friendly against Albanian reserves?? Albania was still favored to win by one goal. Odds were spot on.

Keep in mind that Albania still has to earn the respect of oddsmakers/public because its historical results are not good. Right now Albania can only be major favorites against the San Marinos of the world.

Re: [Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

by Princ » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:40 pm

Dallku wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:26 pm Based on this logic teams like Georgia and Belarus should have just as much chances of qualifying as teams like Serbia, Croatia etc.. but that's not the case.

Georgia played Albania the same way Albania played Spain... like the smaller team. Of course anyone can draw against anyone on a good day but it's the overall consistency and potential that proves higher level. It takes talent to qualify because you actually have to win games.

Macedonia became competitive when they started getting top leaguers (Alioski, Elmas, Bardhi)
Montenegro was competitive when they HAD top leaguers... Not anymore because that generation is finished.
Iceland was competitive when they had top leaguers. Not anymore because that generation is finished.

Georgia has absolutely no chance of qualifying because they have a bunch of scrubs playing in “the depths of Europe”. They might upset or draw once in a while like Albania used to do but they are not a serious team.
If Georgia is not a serious team, why was Bet365 suggesting a positive result for them ~55% of the time, in our house?

It seems that the oddsmakers did not care much about how many super professionals Albania had rostered. Georgia and their bunch of scrubs playing in “the depths of Europe” would have been favored to win if the match was played in Tbilisi..

Do the experts here and on Facebook have a better grasp of the situation than Bet365?

Re: [Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

by Dallku » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:26 pm

Princ wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:18 pm A bunch of scrubs playing in “the depths of Europe” came into Albania last night and took a draw with 1 of 11 top leaguers in starting lineup, while the home side had 8 of 11.

Georgia has a valid claim to a penalty as well, with that Roshi challenge from behind. I have read many comments of naive Albanian fans who expected to run these men over, simply on the basis of our high market value. The typical “Djimsiti and Kumbulla are worth more than their whole team” argument..

Even the oddsmakers respected visitors enough to suggest a positive result more than 1 of 2 times for them (~55% via Bet365). Wake up people! It is not about which club you play for, but what you do for your country!


Based on this logic teams like Georgia and Belarus should have just as much chances of qualifying as teams like Serbia, Croatia etc.. but that's not the case.

Georgia played Albania the same way Albania played Spain... like the smaller team. Of course anyone can draw against anyone on a good day but it's the overall consistency and potential that proves higher level. It takes talent to qualify because you actually have to win games.

Macedonia became competitive when they started getting top leaguers (Alioski, Elmas, Bardhi)
Montenegro was competitive when they HAD top leaguers... Not anymore because that generation is finished.
Iceland was competitive when they had top leaguers. Not anymore because that generation is finished.

Georgia has absolutely no chance of qualifying because they have a bunch of scrubs playing in “the depths of Europe”. They might upset or draw once in a while like Albania used to do but they are not a serious team.

Re: [Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

by CanaYouDoIt » Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:50 pm

Princ wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:18 pm A bunch of scrubs playing in “the depths of Europe” came into Albania last night and took a draw with 1 of 11 top leaguers in starting lineup, while the home side had 8 of 11.

Georgia has a valid claim to a penalty as well, with that Roshi challenge from behind. I have read many comments of naive Albanian fans who expected to run these men over, simply on the basis of our high market value. The typical “Djimsiti and Kumbulla are worth more than their whole team” argument..

Even the oddsmakers respected visitors enough to suggest a positive result more than 1 of 2 times for them (~55% via Bet365). Wake up people! It is not about which club you play for, but what you do for your country!
We’re not doing this again . Go support North Macedonia

Re: [Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

by Princ » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:18 pm

A bunch of scrubs playing in “the depths of Europe” came into Albania last night and took a draw with 1 of 11 top leaguers in starting lineup, while the home side had 8 of 11.

Georgia has a valid claim to a penalty as well, with that Roshi challenge from behind. I have read many comments of naive Albanian fans who expected to run these men over, simply on the basis of our high market value. The typical “Djimsiti and Kumbulla are worth more than their whole team” argument..

Even the oddsmakers respected visitors enough to suggest a positive result more than 1 of 2 times for them (~55% via Bet365). Wake up people! It is not about which club you play for, but what you do for your country!

Re: [Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

by Plako » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:38 pm

Portugal has mastered the art of playoffs. They 're in the playoffs every single time :)

I had 50 on Portugal and US wining by at least 2 goals each.

Re: [Int. Friendly) Albania vs. Georgia - 29/03/2022 - 18:00

by CanaYouDoIt » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:26 pm

artan wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:04 pm
Pjetër wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:25 pm
CanaYouDoIt wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:17 pm

You're such a bitch lmao
It's a loser's mentality. Unfortunately a lot of Albanians think like this. "Moral victories"
It’s a bit more than that. Moral victory is thinking losing 1-0 to Poland in a must win home game is a good result.

Beating Germany, qualifying for a WC playoff spot and beating Italy is impressive. They should be proud of it.
Ultimately they didn't qualify, and that's what matters. In terms of the group , they had an easy group and only got 1 more point than us. I'd say on balance our results were around the same.

Then a 1 off game vs Italy ofc is a great moment but meant nothing in the end

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