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Re: Albanian parliamentary election, 2017

Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:09 am

Simboli, you look at these elections with a western lens. That model does not hold in Albania. The thing about PS being a big party and structured is true, but the truth is much more mundane.

People vote en masse for two things:

1) Conventional voting. My father voted this way, my grandfather voted this way, etc...

2) Who can give me a job for 10-20 votes, or 50 euros for 1 vote. That's why parties in power have a massive advantage.

No one cares about teams, etc...It's mostly about ground game. Going door to door, and promising them things.
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Re: Albanian parliamentary election, 2017

Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:17 pm

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Re: Albanian parliamentary election, 2017

Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:52 pm

Final tally is almost through. PS won about 50,000 more votes than 2013, so not a massive change from last time.

With last elections turnout they would have won about 69-70 seats (I predicted 67-69). Even PS themselves didn't think they would get 74. People staying home massively helped them. I can't wait until they win 85 seats with 30% turnout next time :D
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Re: Albanian parliamentary election, 2017

Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:20 pm

Simboli i Diellit wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:43 pm
Next elections PS will lose but who will govern is to be seen. Def Rama , Veliaj and co are masters in PR and comunication unlike the PD guys or Lsi's who work on field while Rama wins also points in media too.
I don't think so. Between Rama and Veliaj I think they'll be in power for the next 12-16 years.
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Re: Albanian parliamentary election, 2017

Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:56 pm

Plako wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:20 pm
I don't think so. Between Rama and Veliaj I think they'll be in power for the next 12-16 years.
It's scary man...U kthye Partia e Punes prape ne fuqi per vite me radhe.

S'po them qe Rama dhe Veliaj jane komunist, sepse nuk jane, por eshte nje metafor per Shqiperine. Dhe nje parti e re si PD-ja qe u krijua, u rrenua nga brenda nga themeluesi i saj.
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Re: Albanian parliamentary election, 2017

Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:07 pm

Hysni Milloshi ruined Rama's election against Basha back in 2011 for Tirana's Mayor.
Rama sounds more populist althrough he leads a left party.
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Re: Albanian parliamentary election, 2017

Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:23 pm

Basha nuk u dorehoq. Ngriu funksionet e tij brenda ne parti dhe i hapi rruge zgjedhjeve te brendshme. Ai nuk ja me te drejte te futet ne zyren e kryetarit te PDse . Shpresoj qe konkurenca te krijoje nje kandidat kunder tij e jo disa pasi do favorizonin direkt Bashen. Te pakten zgjedhjet brenda PDse ekzistojne akoma ndryshe nga PSja ku Edi Rama nuk i la te drejte Ben Blushit te kandidonte kunder tij.
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Re: Albanian parliamentary election, 2017

Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:42 pm

Rama was dead set on making an alliance with PD to crush LSI, but even he never thought he'd get a majority. That alliance might be dead now.

Berisha might end up in jail, if PD doesn't go in government. Meta will escape if he has political immunity as President.
Simboli i Diellit wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:07 pm
Hysni Milloshi ruined Rama's election against Basha back in 2011 for Tirana's Mayor.
Rama sounds more populist althrough he leads a left party.
That Tirana election was so ironic. Those 10 votes PD stole, and made Basha mayor, exposed Basha as a fraud for when he ran nationally, and destroyed PD entirely.

If Basha never became a mayor, he would have hid his incompetence.
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Re: Albanian parliamentary election, 2017

Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:50 pm

Simboli i Diellit wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:23 pm
Te pakten zgjedhjet brenda PDse ekzistojne akoma ndryshe nga PSja ku Edi Rama nuk i la te drejte Ben Blushit te kandidonte kunder tij.
PD hoqi Astrit Patozin. PS hoqi Ben Blushin. Te vetmit dy intelektuale ne partite e medha u hoqen nga autokratet.





Ai parlament ka marr funde. Hiqen intelektualet, vihen kaubojsat qe blejne karrige me 200,000 euro. Keto parti jane krimbur nga kemba ne koke.

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Re: Albanian parliamentary election, 2017

Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:07 am

Kaubojsi nuk mori asnje vote. Ndersa ndryshe nga Blushi ki parasysh se Patozi eshte akoma anetar i PDse dhe mund te kandidoje nese ia ndien.

http://lexo.al/ndocaj-ultimatum-bashes- ... a-ose-ika/

Perderisa edhe kisha katolike u kerkonte besimtarve te mos shisnin voten do te thote se si fenomen ka qene shume i pranishem.

http://www.gazetatema.net/2017/06/25/zg ... -te-blera/

Une besoj se deri ne fund te mandatit do firojne disa deputete nga LSIja drejt PSse sepse iu duhen leket ;)

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