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Re: Albanians abroad

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:30 am
by Aurora Bulkualis
plisi wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:38 pm Really, moving from Lazio to Liverpool is not an improvement? And Chelsea had an off season for sure, but still probably a top 10 club in Europe.
An improvement in what? Money/fame yeah, but not playing levels. Lazio's keeper coaches are some of the best in the world, and he's benefited plenty from them. Moving from a team that's only marginally better, with shittier coaches, is actually more detrimental than anything. I don't know anything about Liverpool's keeper coaches but their keeper situation has been abysmal.

If he was an outfield player, then playing under Klopp would be beneficial, but Klopp will not help him in any way, shape or form.

Re: Albanians abroad

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:57 am
by plisi
^^ ofc, playing level too. He'd be up vs better attackers most of the games and there's a bigger chance of Liverpool winning a title than Lazio qualifying for CHL. If Liverpool sees him as a first choice gk, then it'd be a no brainer not to move.

Re: Albanians abroad

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:32 pm
by Aurora Bulkualis
plisi wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:57 am ^^ ofc, playing level too. He'd be up vs better attackers most of the games and there's a bigger chance of Liverpool winning a title than Lazio qualifying for CHL. If Liverpool sees him as a first choice gk, then it'd be a no brainer not to move.
Again, that's nonsense. I'm not denying Liverpool is a better team, but they're not much better than Roma, who is head to head with Lazio.

When it comes to keepers, it's a whole other ball game. Klopp's playing style doesn't matter. What matters is how he's being coached. Liverpool's keepers atm seem on a level below Roma's/Lazio's GK.

Re: Albanians abroad

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:23 pm
by Pjetër
Strakosha doesn't want to pass up the chance to save a Penaldo penalty. He'll stay.

Re: Albanians abroad

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:18 pm
by Simboli i Diellit
Goalkeepers playing in Italy are better than those playing in Epl.

Re: Albanians abroad

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:41 am
by plisi
Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:32 pm
plisi wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:57 am ^^ ofc, playing level too. He'd be up vs better attackers most of the games and there's a bigger chance of Liverpool winning a title than Lazio qualifying for CHL. If Liverpool sees him as a first choice gk, then it'd be a no brainer not to move.
Again, that's nonsense. I'm not denying Liverpool is a better team, but they're not much better than Roma, who is head to head with Lazio.

When it comes to keepers, it's a whole other ball game. Klopp's playing style doesn't matter. What matters is how he's being coached. Liverpool's keepers atm seem on a level below Roma's/Lazio's GK.
Lol, how's that nonesense? Liverpool are way better than Roma and the later way better than Lazio ( don't let Serie A statics fool you. )

There's nothing to indicate that Liverpool has worse GK coaching compared to Italy. How are the coaches to blame for Karius and Mignolet having brainfarts when least expected?!

I don't disagree with you in that Italy develops better classic gk's, but that position is evolving too and Italy is behind in that aspect. If you've followd Lazio you've probably seen that Strakosha is very allergic to use his feet and at Lazio with the way they play he isn't required to do that. A good reason why EPL rejects like Szczęsny and Reina have played for Italy's top 3 teams.

Roma's Alisson is praised and hyped more for his CHL performances than anything else.

Like I said, If Strakosha is seen as a starter he's a fool not to move

@ Simboli

Chec, Courtois, De Gea, Lloris, Ederson, Bravo are world class

Re: Albanians abroad

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:51 am
by artan
He should stay at Lazio because he'd be extremely scrutinized at Liverpool. Might be good for him to stay at Lazio for another season or so and raise his stock a bit. He seems like he has a good environment in Lazio. Came from their youth setups, Tare obviously has alot of faith in him, they recently signed two Albos (Valon Berisha and Durmisi). At Lazio it seems like he'll eventually be a leader there and a captain one day.

But if he goes to Liverpool his stock raises instantly.

Re: Albanians abroad

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:02 am
by Aurora Bulkualis
plisi wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:41 am
Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:32 pm
plisi wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:57 am ^^ ofc, playing level too. He'd be up vs better attackers most of the games and there's a bigger chance of Liverpool winning a title than Lazio qualifying for CHL. If Liverpool sees him as a first choice gk, then it'd be a no brainer not to move.
Again, that's nonsense. I'm not denying Liverpool is a better team, but they're not much better than Roma, who is head to head with Lazio.

When it comes to keepers, it's a whole other ball game. Klopp's playing style doesn't matter. What matters is how he's being coached. Liverpool's keepers atm seem on a level below Roma's/Lazio's GK.
Lol, how's that nonesense? Liverpool are way better than Roma and the later way better than Lazio ( don't let Serie A statics fool you. )

There's nothing to indicate that Liverpool has worse GK coaching compared to Italy. How are the coaches to blame for Karius and Mignolet having brainfarts when least expected?!

I don't disagree with you in that Italy develops better classic gk's, but that position is evolving too and Italy is behind in that aspect. If you've followd Lazio you've probably seen that Strakosha is very allergic to use his feet and at Lazio with the way they play he isn't required to do that. A good reason why EPL rejects like Szczęsny and Reina have played for Italy's top 3 teams.

Roma's Alisson is praised and hyped more for his CHL performances than anything else.

Like I said, If Strakosha is seen as a starter he's a fool not to move

@ Simboli

Chec, Courtois, De Gea, Lloris, Ederson, Bravo are world class
I'm sorry dude but you have no idea what you're talking about. Liverpool v. Roma finished 5 v. 2, 4 v. 2, and Roma took out Barcelona. How is Liverpool "way better"? EPL in general has more raw talent, but that doesn't translate to every single position. Italian keepers in general are better.

Like Artan said, he'll just be more scrutinised, or sucked off, which are both bad. That type of scrutiny should be for teams like RM, Bayern, Barca not Liverpool.

Re: Albanians abroad

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:16 am
by artan
Liverpool is definitely better than Roma and Lazio. Liverpool and most EPL clubs have immense budgets that Serie A clubs don't have. A team like Newcastle or Watford probably have bigger budgets than Lazio for example. English teams have been doing better than Italian clubs in European play (exception of Juve) so I'd say EPL is definitely better than Serie A.

I'd just be scared because look what happened to Karius. Dude's career is basically ruined and he was being scrutinized before that CL final fuckup. Maybe Juve snatches up Strakosha in a year or two if he continues to play well.

Re: Albanians abroad

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:27 pm
by Aurora Bulkualis
artan wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:16 am Liverpool is definitely better than Roma and Lazio. Liverpool and most EPL clubs have immense budgets that Serie A clubs don't have. A team like Newcastle or Watford probably have bigger budgets than Lazio for example. English teams have been doing better than Italian clubs in European play (exception of Juve) so I'd say EPL is definitely better than Serie A.

I'd just be scared because look what happened to Karius. Dude's career is basically ruined and he was being scrutinized before that CL final fuckup. Maybe Juve snatches up Strakosha in a year or two if he continues to play well.
That doesn't mean anything at all. They waste most of that money on other EPL players who are overpriced.