In fact, Spezia is not newly promoted, but Espanyol is. I don't think they are any different and Konyaspor is probably better than Espanyol.Dallku wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 6:12 pmRedFootballs wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 5:36 pm
Cika starts for the 2nd best team in Turkey. Manaj played 1.5k minutes for safe Spezia. But you bring those two up as bad players. You don't follow your principle.
You can think they are bad players, but it directly refutes your logic. Just because a player plays in a top league or a reputable team doesn't make them a good player. Some top league clubs start absolute rubbish, Veseli played a season as a starter in Empoli and even now gets some minutes for Salerno.
Whilst Bare is talented, he has made a lot of unacceptable errors with us. And I was one of his biggest defenders on here when he was playing in Malaga and nobody rated him. Albeit this and his talents we need to recognise his performances have been poor and Laci and Ramadani in fact have played better when they have played, so has Gjasula, who was again solid against Spain.
When did I rate the Turkish league??
But of course context matters. Some top leaguers who play for these relagation teams are not guaranteed to be top league material. Some of them(Veseli, Ujkani, Manaj) are suspect and could be easily 2nd division level.
Espanyol on the other hand has been historically a mid-table La Liga team so they are a different level than Salernitana, Spezia, Deportivo Alaves and all these newly promoted/relegation sides. That's why Bare is more established than these other players you mention.
And this is Bare's first season in a top league, he's 24. I'm not convinced he is established at all. And certainly not for us, however much you guys will mock Laci, he might do the exact same thing and start for a newly promoted team next season.