Yes Rama and Meta. The opposition without Berisha is impotent.
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What utter bullshit. Retorika boshe e Rames s'ka qite asgje n'drite per shqiptaret e Kosoves e lere me per ata te Kosoves Lindore. Keto pordha le t'i shet ky komentuesi tjeterku te ata qe s'e dine gjendjen ne toke.Simboli i Diellit wrote:Eshte e pakuptueshme retorika e ketyre diteve nga ana e politikaneve Kosovare . Nje forum biznesi i organizuar me kohe nga institucione nderkombetare duhej te bojkotohej sipas aresyetimit te politikaneve konstruktive VV qe kerkonte mospjesmarrjen ne forum pasi paskan arrestuar nje komisar qe i pelqenka te udhetoje permes Serbise . Pleshtave qeverises e politikane te jashtem qe thumbojne se Rama paska thene se Trepca qenka e Kosoves (dmth pune te brendshme te tyre) e se Kosova eshte shtet bie ndesh me interesat e Kosovarve e si rrjelloje ne te ardhmen duhet marre parasysh , e kur politikanet Serb te permendin Kosoven nuk duhet te kete asnje reagim nga ana e perfaqesuesve te shtetit Shqiptar. Keta analiste qe mbushin faqet e gazetave hedhurina te kontrolluara nga aparati shteteror ne Kosove e qe na aresyetojne perzierjen ne politiken e jashtme Kosoves nga ana e Shqiperise duhet te marrin parasysh se edhe kerkesa per bojkotim qe parashtronin para se te mbahej forumi "ESHTE PERZJERJE NE POLITIKEN E JASHTME TE SHTETIT SHQIPTAR QE ME SA DUKET NUK I PERFAQESON" e per rrjelloje me mire te vazhdojne te shkruajne artikuj mbeturina sic benin me pare pas cdo "pordhe" qe plas ne Beograd rreth bisedimeve mes Kosoves e Serbise. Keta shqiptare te pamvarur de facto e de jure qe nuk paskan nevoje per konfirmime nuk mendojne aspak per shqiptaret e lugines dhe faktikisht nuk i perfshijne interesat e tyre ne bisedime me serbine sic ben serbia me serbet e Kosoves. Pas pritjes ne Beograd , Rama takoi perfaqesuesit e lugines me te cilet po kerkohej prej dy vitesh qe te arriheshin disa te drejta dhe qe librat e dhuruar per shkollat shqipe te aprovoheshin nga ana e Serbise. Rama dhe Meta nuk kane kredibilitet te brendshem por per sa i perket politikes se jashtme po punojne me shume se c'kane bere paraardhesit e tyre.
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^do you understand that the west are those that move the manequins in the Balkans ? We'll be here 10 years from now with Kosova being Taiwan of Europe, totally isolated with difficulties to attract foreign investments , unemployment ect You're expecting to get something from Rama's rethorics and also criticize him for interfering with Kosova? What about your own liders? You have a president that was processed for war crimes! What have your leaders archieved more speaking to the serbs? Why is Rama worse than your own politicians who met with Vucic & Dacic on dayly basis . Thousands of your citizens apply for Serbian passports to move to west. Most of them pass through Serbia. What was the police officer doing in Serbia? You were asking to boycott the forum because of him .
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Ps. This has become a rally against albanian foreign politics in Kosove not only against Rama as the politician. We all know he is a liability and his credibility in Albania has been on freefall but there are middle positions in statement not only i'am with or i'm against .
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I feel like one of RA's important objective is to get that Nis-Durres road/highway to life. Imo, Serbia doesn't have the needed money to invest in it and cause it would benefit Albania a great deal ( as it will increase alot the traffic in the port of Durres). So Rama is giving Serbia a helping hand here in milking the funds from EU.Migjeni wrote:You're right about LPK, but that's way back - and I don't think there's anything else but their fondness of capital and the killings of any political opponent during and after the war in Kosovë. which holds them together today. Hell, it's the same fucking guys who tried to kill Ibrahim Rugova. Money is powerful. Just a quick example; Until very recently Sabri Hamiti was said to have been ordered killed by Kadri Veseli. Luckily for Hamiti he survived as the shooting wasn't fatal - but the same guy voted to elect Kadri Veseli as Head of Parliament.vata10 wrote:At the begining both LPK and PS were a creation of enverism. Shtabi pergjithshem originated from LPK that created PDK later. So them having more than close ties, is only natural.
Imo, PS & ShIK( now. SHISH) are a very big reason the leaders of Shtabi are where they are, be it richness, political positions etc. As they had absolutely the free hands in RA to eliminate any opposition they possibly had.
I don't see Rama visiting Belgrade as an issue at all. Both Albania and Serbia are aspiring EU membership and have similar agendas. And I agree with the others stating that he's doing it more than anything to gain points. And if it helps RA on their journey so be it.
I doubt Rama is that stupid to not know, that he has no gain in pushing for the unification card and neither RA or Kosova.
P.S. Final conclusion Rama in the long/weird stuff he likes/does. It's still a rumour, but I believe he has a fetish for Serbs.
Albania might get a small plus in the EU-notebook, but the Serbs are gaining more, and that small plus is on the expense of Albanians in Kosovë.
Could be. Dude is quoting Ivo Andric and was the one who gave the key of Tirana to Goran Bregovic while he was mayor.
Rama's need of no correction but silence while Vucic was mentioning the importance of the Nis-Durres(read carefully, Pristina missing) road gives us a great hint.

AND tbh, I see no Albanian leader in power at the moment that could sincerely act as a voice for all Albanians. The leaders of Kosova have no backbone and those of RA are ignorant.
See how ignorant Rama came out in the eyes of Kosovars quoting Ivo Andric? Rama probably read his famous novels and thought because won a nobel also, he couldn't be a monster of human that supported Serbia's drafts that planned the expulsion and assimilation of not only Albanians in Kosova, but also the annexation of Shkodra.
All these stated things give us a clear view on how ignorant the people using them as reasons to question the patriotism of Albanians in Kosove, sound. And I'm a bit shocked tbh, as I was getting a feeling that RA albos have the 'I wouldn't say( advanced mentality'), but more of a don't give a f*** attitudeMigjeni wrote: Logjika e shitësve të dardhave të kalbura

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Who has said that 'our' leaders are better? - I've been against every single one of the dialogues which have taken place, so I'm consistent in my beliefs.Simboli i Diellit wrote:^do you understand that the west are those that move the manequins in the Balkans ? We'll be here 10 years from now with Kosova being Taiwan of Europe, totally isolated with difficulties to attract foreign investments , unemployment ect You're expecting to get something from Rama's rethorics and also criticize him for interfering with Kosova? What about your own liders? You have a president that was processed for war crimes! What have your leaders archieved more speaking to the serbs? Why is Rama worse than your own politicians who met with Vucic & Dacic on dayly basis . Thousands of your citizens apply for Serbian passports to move to west. Most of them pass through Serbia. What was the police officer doing in Serbia? You were asking to boycott the forum because of him .
Thaci hasn't been processed for war crimes, so wtf are you talking about? - He might be in the future, but not yet.
Also, unlike random citizens who get Serbian passports to leave, Rama, Thaci, Mustafa and Veseli are leaders of countries. They're not just some random Joe who can't feed his family because of the policies of those exact assholes who've made life unbearable.
Also, let me give you a quote from Ukshin Hoti on this bullshit false premise that the West is behind everything:
Ukshin Hoti kishte nje porosi per ata, qe nuk e kane te qarte raportin ne mes te interesave nderkombtare dhe atyre kombtare. Ai per Bashkesine Nderkombatare shkruan:
"Ajo ne zgjidhjen e ketyre ceshtjeve, rendom i ndjek interesat vetjake, ndersa interesat e paleve te interesuara i merr parasysh vetem ne masen, ne te cilen ato pale jane te zonjat vet, qe t'i mbrojne e t'i sigurojne."
Kjo do te thote qe pushteti mashtron qytetaret kur paaftesine e qeveritareve e maskon kinse me interesat e faktorit nderkombtar.
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Well Rama is playing the game the Europeans want him to play. You are looking at tit through the prism of the Albanians in Kosova but they have no say in their internal affairs so he's gotta sing a different tune. Also admiring the art/literature of Serbian artists/writers does not necessarily condone whetaever they may have supported in their lives. It's like saying f*** Heidegger and his philosophical work because he was a Nazi.
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So how many Jewish leaders have praised Heidegger when they visited Germany the first decades after WWII? Have Jewish leaders ever praised him?
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Ukshin Hoti lived in another era. Kosova wasn't indipendent at the time and the main aim for albanians from Kosove was to join the Rep of Albania. Things have evolved , the internationals don't want even to hear the Albania-Kosova merging together. Everything is done in Kosove is done because the "faktori nderkombetar" wants to , because they aprove Zajednica and the Montenegro pact for the border. Many things are just excuses but you are aware that merging both states like Ukshin says won't be possible because the internationals don't want that . I just hope VV wins the elections so they can prove you wrong once they start governing with their tied hands a puppet state with no sovreignity over his territory.
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hahaha migjen mos ju prek Ramen ore burr.
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