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vata10 wrote:
E po ti m'befasove(pozitivisht) edhe vetem me nje shkrimtar qe e njef. :talumsha:

Mirko Gashi, Azem Shkreli, Anton Pashku, Din Mehmeti, Mark Krasniqi, Sabri Hamiti, Flora Brovina etc... All of them respected the standard in most of their work including Ali Podrimja. Nese e shikojme prej kendveshtrimit tuaj ateher vepra e Pjeter Bogdanit eshte themeli i literatures shqipe :D

And tbh, I don't see much difference between Kosova, Ilirida, Malsia & Kosova lindore and including here also the diaspora of these parts. You'll get Prishtine as the center of gegenishte. So the Geges inside RA would be as relevant as gegenishtja came out to be in the standard of Shqipe from the congress in 1972.
Une thashe shkrimtar Gege qe i jep Gegnishtes dimension tjeter . Shkrelin , Mehmetin ne vecanti , Krasniqin , Demaçin etj i njof si emra letraresh por ama perciptaz sepse ne shkolle kemi studju shume me shume Podrimjen , Camajn, Qosjen , Migjenin , Fishten etj si shkrimtar qe perdornin sadopak Gegnisht ne veprat e tyre. Kongresi politik i gjuhes eshte mbajtur ne vitet 70. Deri asokohe dhe zyrtarisht gjate sundimit te mbretit Zog dialekti Gege ishte ai zyrtar. Frang Bardhi, Marin Barletti, Pjeter Bogdani, Pjeter Budi, Gjon Buzuku , Ndre Mjeda , Ulqinakun , Pashko Vasen etj, gjithe kane shkruar shqipen me dialekt gege . Prishtine isn't center of Gegnishte , Shkodra was always the center althrough atm lost it's importance because of communist rule and the following events during transition. Prishtine wasn't even center of Kosova in the past , Prizren and Mitrovica probably were more powerfull politically and culturarly .
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AlMadman wrote:
vata1O wrote:It's easy, Gegenishtja >> Toskerishtja.

Mu m'doken debatet e Fevziut shum banale.
Banale? Ne nje vend normal keto debate as qe nuk do te kishin ndodhur. Keta ende kan probleme te dallojne mes kombit dhe shtetit, e lere me gjerat me te komplikuara.

Gjithashtu, nga pikepamja ime, problemi kryesore qe kane disa eshte pse Kosova te jete shtet(kete e veren te disa qe nxerrin paralele mes kosoves dhe laberise :rrokullisem:). Sipas disave Kosova duhet te jete/duket si shtet, por ndaj Shqiperise se sotshme, nuk eshte shtet, por nje cope toke e cila nuk mbizoterohet nga politike e saj, por duhet te jete ne sherbim te saj(aty ku ka interes).
Spot on! Those are the most delusional ones, bro!!
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Indeed Gegnishtja tingullon me bukur. I wish they would modify the standard language in another Pan Albanian congress. They gotta drop the fucking "ë" at the end.

And yes debates be Shqiperi, jo vetem te Fevziut, jane ne pergjithesi banale dhe me nivel shume te ulet civiliteti.


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Plako, Toskerishtja tingëllon edhe me bukur, especially coming from a woman's lips :lol2:.

Nuk kam problem me standardin edhe pse futja e paskajorjes nuk do te ishte aq e demsheme pasi do t'ju ndihmonte edhe jugoreve me kendue ma mire lahuten e Malsise.

I just saw a chance to take a digg at Simboli's post. Flamuri kuqezi is a national treasure for Kosovars and it won't lose that meaning, no matter how much some RA albos think they got a right to decide who it belongs to.
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Simboli i Diellit wrote:
Une thashe shkrimtar Gege qe i jep Gegnishtes dimension tjeter . Shkrelin , Mehmetin ne vecanti , Krasniqin , Demaçin etj i njof si emra letraresh por ama perciptaz sepse ne shkolle kemi studju shume me shume Podrimjen , Camajn, Qosjen , Migjenin , Fishten etj si shkrimtar qe perdornin sadopak Gegnisht ne veprat e tyre. Kongresi politik i gjuhes eshte mbajtur ne vitet 70. Deri asokohe dhe zyrtarisht gjate sundimit te mbretit Zog dialekti Gege ishte ai zyrtar. Frang Bardhi, Marin Barletti, Pjeter Bogdani, Pjeter Budi, Gjon Buzuku , Ndre Mjeda , Ulqinakun , Pashko Vasen etj, gjithe kane shkruar shqipen me dialekt gege . Prishtine isn't center of Gegnishte , Shkodra was always the center althrough atm lost it's importance because of communist rule and the following events during transition. Prishtine wasn't even center of Kosova in the past , Prizren and Mitrovica probably were more powerfull politically and culturarly .
Why are you going back to the past, man? Mitrovica more powerful and cultural, when? Not mentioning rrafshi Dukagjinit, unforgivable! Prishtina is the capital of Kosova and it has the first tv channel in Gegnishte. So this does it for me ;) .

Even Ali Podrimja respected the standard in his literature, more than he could've. So all the names I brought up are writers that started writing after ww2. The only reason Kosova didn't contribute to Gegnishte more was, education in Albanian not being allowed before ww2.

The only one that comes to my mind and is from the time of the empire is Shtjefen Gjecovi.
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vata10 wrote:Plako, Toskerishtja tingëllon edhe me bukur, especially coming from a woman's lips :lol2:
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Not sure if you're able to tell the different accents of the South but the majority of them sounds terrible to me :)


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There is a big difference in how women from Kosovë and Shqipëri talk. The ones from Kosovë speak in some gangster roadly way while the ones in Albania, especially south speak in a very elegant way.
(That was written in a majority type way, as i on average, as obviously each individual is difference).

Also very interested to hear why one of you wrote Prishtina is the center of Gegënisht?
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Albo_eagle wrote:There is a big difference in how women from Kosovë and Shqipëri talk. The ones from Kosovë speak in some gangster roadly way while the ones in Albania, especially south speak in a very elegant way.
(That was written in a majority type way, as i on average, as obviously each individual is difference).
Yeah I kinda agree, I do find the accent of Kosova a bit rougher. However, the accents within Albania vary drastically. And yes the Southern accents, except Vlora's, are softer in general. However I think the level of education has a lot to do with how well one sounds.
Albo_eagle wrote:Also very interested to hear why one of you wrote Prishtina is the center of Gegënisht?
He's probably from Prishtina himself :)

I personally think Shkodra is.




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Pikesepari as nuk mund te krahasohet Prishtina me Shkodren sepse edhe duke mos patur emerues te perbashket ne krahasim Shkodra sot ka me shume produktivitet ne letersi e ne gegnisht. Prishtina duhet krahasu me Shkodren si qytet , sikur Shkodra te kishte gjysmen e mbeshtetjes qe ka Prishtina me siguri do ishte superiore ndaj çdo qyteti shqiptar ne çdo trull. Te pretendosh se Prishtina (kryeqender e 2 miljon Shqiptarve te Kosoves) mund te krahasohet me Shkodren qytetin njeqindmijebanoresh eshte pak naive po prape se prape Shkodra eshte superiore ;) Kuptoj motivin se prej 1912 deri ne 1945 nuk lejohej gjuha Shqipe po para pavaresise se Shqiperise ishim te gjithe ne nje perandori e prap letraret nga Shkodra numerohen me dhjetera , nga ana tjeter Gjeçovi nuk ishte nga Prishtina por nga Kosova ;) Kosova , Prishtina i ka dhane Gegenishtes shume Kreshnike Trima , Heronj, Komandante qe mbushin vargjet e lirikave te shkrimtareve por ne letersi kane mungu ikonat e shkrimtarve te medhenj te pakten para pamvaresise . If Albania and Kosova unite someday then Shkodra should become the capital of that new state .
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I'm so jealous that my dad can speak like a puro Shkodran.
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e ktynve tjerve veq inatin po ja shtina
se nr 1 qysh tkom thon kejt e dina
edhe tjera vende mir e din
veq dqysh pom vjen me kesh hehe kur po shtyhesh me prishtinalin
pajto o shoki jem mos t'vjen inati prano
se tana venet jon nxe po Prishtina nr 1. - Prishtina's contributions to Gegë mjsic could be considered as to why it is now the capital of Gegënisht. That would be a valid point.

Anyway, if we do unite it would be very interesting to discuss the capital thing. Obviously 90 percent of people will want their city to be capital and for those of us who are from the two current capitals, Tirana and Prishtina, it would hurt when they take it away from us. Shkodra is also my first choice, beautiful place and historically the capital of Iliria. I just feel maybe the capital should be more in the middle and not all the way north or all the way south.
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