Albania at EURO 2016

[Genti]

Honestly why the f*** does it matter if we naturalized a player? Not just Olayinka but any others. This is football, not a cultural competition. 3/4 of the French NT is African ffs. Look at Macedonia capping Arijan Ademi an Albanian born in Croatia with no connection to Macedonia. If it helps the team, even the u21, then why not?

[Pjetër]

Bro i respect everyone opinion but i will try explain my point of view,why naturalization of foreign player will have extremely negative effect to our team. Our national team is very specific and one of the secrets of our success is love that our players feel for the jersey. It is obvious that many of Diaspora players can't speak albanian fluently but they have albanian parents, they have relatives in Albania or Kosova and still have strong connection with their fatherland, so it is not hard to transmit significance of our jersey to them when they become part of our team but we should not forget that was it diaspora players who brought different mentality to our NT, they have no inferiority complex against nobody. Olayinka and other foreigners doesn't matter how skillful they are, they always will be "mish i huaj" in our team and that will have negative impact in our dressing room. All albanians (99% are from Albania) who want foreigners in our national team,they have same argument "We should call up Olayinka because Spain got Diego Costa and Italy, Germany have also foreigners" but unfortunately that's very weak argument because as i said every country and nation has their own characteristics. I have nothing against Egbo son or Abraham sons if they become footballers to represent Albania but i don't know why people even consider a player with attitude problems as Olayinka to be part of our national team.

[ZenMaster]

Bro now i understand why Beselidhja team is full of serbian fisherman's.

I don't think it is an equivalent example . Partizani has more shkije than us

Beselidhja team :
http://int.soccerway.com/teams/albania/ ... ezhe/2513/

Partizani roster:
http://it.soccerway.com/teams/albania/k ... tirana/69/

and your best CB is from Lezhe

Artan is right and made a good point in his reasoning although i'm still reserved , and as i said i wouldn't mind but now it is not even case because it was cathegorically excluded by the divine leader

Ne e kemi per detyrim per ceshtje ideologjike, a e ke pa serb, malazez,kosovar,kolumbian tash na duhet edhe ni korean me kompletu detyrimet ideologjike.

[Berti]

I agree that if we are to break the "strictly" Albanian rule we should do it for someone worthy. Everyone does it. Raheem Sterling has no connection with England and he came here when he was 7. Jagielka is a top defender and before England capped him he almost played for Poland cos one of his grandparents was Polish. No shame in this. And let's not forget that only 3-4 years ago we were complaining that our NT wouldn't call up anyone from Kosova without paying. I know where we are now is a huge achievement and yes its historical what's happened, but I still refuse to call it succes. Too many things have gone our way. So whatever can improve us I'm all for it. After all, we can't be too harsh on these "non Albanians" who want to play for us while majority of us hold different ones

[artan]

Bro i respect everyone opinion but i will try explain my point of view,why naturalization of foreign player will have extremely negative effect to our team. Our national team is very specific and one of the secrets of our success is love that our players feel for the jersey. It is obvious that many of Diaspora players can't speak albanian fluently but they have albanian parents, they have relatives in Albania or Kosova and still have strong connection with their fatherland, so it is not hard to transmit significance of our jersey to them when they become part of our team but we should not forget that was it diaspora players who brought different mentality to our NT, they have no inferiority complex against nobody. Olayinka and other foreigners doesn't matter how skillful they are, they always will be "mish i huaj" in our team and that will have negative impact in our dressing room. All albanians (99% are from Albania) who want foreigners in our national team,they have same argument "We should call up Olayinka because Spain got Diego Costa and Italy, Germany have also foreigners" but unfortunately that's very weak argument because as i said every country and nation has their own characteristics. I have nothing against Egbo son or Abraham sons if they become footballers to represent Albania but i don't know why people even consider a player with attitude problems as Olayinka to be part of our national team.

He's 100% correct though. Alot of our success in the NT is because our players play with heart and passion. To them the match becomes patriotic rather players from other countries don't have the same hunger. They play like someone on their family is on the line.

He's also right about Olayinka. Albanians seem to blindly want a black/foreign player on the team so they can reiterate the "WE ARE EUROPEAN" phrase but difference is Olayinka is a decent superliga player while Diego Costa was practically the top striker in Europe AND rejected Brazil. If you can't see the difference then w/e might as well get neutralized Brazilians like Marco Pizzeli who are worst then the guys we already have so we can say we're "European!"

I didn't want that Tatos guy who played in Greece(Born in Albania), thought the Musacchio claim for NT was absurd because we're fooling ourselves, etc.

PS, the Sterling debate is different as those guys were raised in their countries.

[AlMadman]

Artan always spot on..."ne jemi evropian, duam edhe ne zezak, te dukemi si italianet evropian".

[Aurora Bulkualis]

Artan always spot on..."ne jemi evropian, duam edhe ne zezak, te dukemi si italianet evropian".

Some of you guys are hilariously hysterical. Who the hell said we have to bring him TO look European or whatever stupid bullshit theory... That comparison was just a way of saying we're not doing anything out of the ordinary by bring someone of a different race. It wasn't the reason WHY we should bring him.

We have no strikers and he's been decent with Skenderbeu. On the other hand, he hasn't grown up here and barely speaks the language. The only two arguments are bring him for practicality, or don't bring him because he hasn't grown up here.

[Plako]

I would be totally cool with this guy playing. It's better to have guys who want to play for the team as opposed to guys who only play for Albania because they aren't good enough to play for their home country.

You can change his name Pjetër Afrikani or something to make the racists/nationalists feel more comfortable.

So you're saying Olaynka wants to play for Albanian over Nigeria, assuming he was good enough to play for Nigeria?


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[Simboli i Diellit]

So you're saying Olaynka wants to play for Albanian over Nigeria, assuming he was good enough to play for Nigeria?


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Guess at this stage he would prefer Albania because of the potential marketing window Euro2016 is compared to the African Cup. But the better answer for your question is another question: Would any of our actual players play for Albania over their born countries assuming they'd be enough good to play for them and they were asking them to? So we are doing useless mental saws because until Duka will be there there will be no naturalized african players playing for Albania even if they're born/raised in Albania.

[artan]

Again, Olayinka doesn't deserve to be called up for the NT because he doesn't merit one. He's not good enough.. For the U-21 he's definitely good enough but would Olayinka want to play for the youth? Probably not.. If he wasn't African and lets say he was Croatian or Serbian you think this would even be a discussion?

There was no discussion in capping up Pejic for the NT and the dude scored 40 goals last year for Kukesi. Pejic also even said many times he'd love to play for us too. If there was a time to neutralize a foreigner it would probably have been Peric but I don't think it would have been ideal because he's probably good enough for the NT.

Honestly, I'm done with this because it's a non-story. Good on Duka for having logic.

PS, looks like Manaj is getting called up in November(he met with GDB)