Albanian Football Forum

Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:31 pm

Redijupison wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:03 pm

Them being slavs has nothing to do with developing good players in this time and age. They might have had a better system on youth development in the 20th century, but that's no excuse as to why Albania is terrible in developing decent footballers nowadays.

It's the same with North Macedonia, Slovenia and now Kosovo(after being accepted in intl. federations), smaller populations, but are far more superior than Albania in sports.

It has everything to do with it because tradition/culture/DNA travels along time. It doesn't go away.

It explains why Kosovars were and still are horrific at sports all the other Yugoslavs thrived at: basketball, volleyball, handball, waterpolo, tennis, etc.. Kosovo has produced 0 top athletes at any of those sports even though they lived in a super pro-sport regime. That's shocking.

And don't give me that "we were held back" myth. Fadil Vokrri proved it was possible to make it. It was a socialist regime where everyone was equal and sports were a top priority unlike in Albania.

Btw what sports is Kosovo good at right now since you want to talk about present... female judo??? LMFAO

Dude, you must be very ignorant on the Kosovo matter! Albanians had barely any rights until the 1974 federal constitutional changes which were taken away in 1989. Fadil Vokrri and the Prekazi brothers are rare case.

Kosovo with its diaspora is proving that tradition/ culture/ DNA is actually bullshit and a lame excuse for football. You also have micro countries like Iceland that seem to have found the recipe on how to develope continually talented players. You're making it sound like Albanians are mentally and physically inferior to other Europians .

Judo is very popular all over the world, and being world class at it its absolutely impressive. Wtf is waterpolo, lmao?!

^^ It's all about creating the right circumstances for the youth to develope in. You do that and in 5-10 years you'll see very talented Albanian players popping up. There are no excuses, 10-15 years ago one could say the problem could've been financial, but FSHF has a lot of money now and the Superliga clubs too. The problem is that they have chosen the easy path, Albania's youth teams are filled with diaspora kids and the clubs are filled with foreigners

Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:17 pm They are gifted in sports by nature.

And yet Serbia with 3x the population still needs Manaj to bottle a penalty to not lose.

Albania's sports development is just non-existent. Lots of insiders have spoken about this. Bushi was complaining that he had to teach people the basics of football. Fix that disastrous sports development and infrastructure and then we can talk about DNA.

Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:07 am

Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:17 pm They are gifted in sports by nature.

And yet Serbia with 3x the population still needs Manaj to bottle a penalty to not lose.

Albania's sports development is just non-existent. Lots of insiders have spoken about this. Bushi was complaining that he had to teach people the basics of football. Fix that disastrous sports development and infrastructure and then we can talk about DNA.

Tbh, Bushi is part of the problem, Duka rules like an authoritarian with FSHF and only a yes man could work for him.

Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:07 am

And yet Serbia with 3x the population still needs Manaj to bottle a penalty to not lose.

The best basketball player in the world today is a Serb (and you realize how elite his competition is)

The best tennis player arguably of all time is a Serb.

What I'm saying is that they are a bad comparison for Albanians. So when redijupison brings up Montenegro to prove that they overachieve in comparison to Albania because of population it's a pointless point because they are Serbs and will produce world class athletes regardless. Same with Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia... They are at a different level and it's ok to admit it.

The point is that Albania and Kosovo NEED all the help they can get and that includes the diaspora no matter the generation. Need all the numbers and resources possible to be semi-competitive on a European scale, and even then still will never be world class.

Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:07 am Fix that disastrous sports development and infrastructure and then we can talk about DNA.

A Serbian has gone on arguably the greatest 5 year run in NBA history. Should have won MVP all 5 years in a row. Won the 1st championship ever for a small market team like Denver while never playing with another all-star on his team!

Just for reference, even legends like LeBron James had to go team up with other all-stars to win a championship in the NBA.

The Serbian men’s basketball team nearly beat the US in the Olympic semi-finals in what many consider the best game in history!

Afterwards, USA coach and 9 time NBA champion Steve Kerr said “I feel humbled to have been a part of this game.”

Serbia has also produced arguably the greatest tennis player in history!

Fix all the infrastructure you want.. can you seriously tell me that you see Albania rivalling the US in basketball..? Or producing the best tennis player..?

With improved infrastructure, I believe Albania can produce the best wrestlers and weightlifters in the world!

It’s a shame we are so behind at these sports that we are naturally predisposed towards..

Tall people sports just isn’t our thing and that’s OK!

Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:07 am

Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:17 pm They are gifted in sports by nature.

And yet Serbia with 3x the population still needs Manaj to bottle a penalty to not lose.

Any team can be hard to beat at home, especially one plays as negatively as Albania..

Serbia is a regular at the World Cup and a Serbian team won the European Cup..

Albania doesn’t compare in football..

Princ wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:07 am Fix all the infrastructure you want.. can you seriously tell me that you see Albania rivalling the US in basketball..? Or producing the best tennis player..?

With improved infrastructure, I believe Albania can produce the best wrestlers and weightlifters in the world!

It’s a shame we are so behind at these sports that we are naturally predisposed towards..

Tall people sports just isn’t our thing and that’s OK!

Albania hasn't succeeded at any sport because we had no historical major cities. It was a bunch of small towns with 50k-100k max population. Tirana was a village when our grandparents were born. Nothing to do with short, medium, tall. The one sport where we do try is football, and per capita we're just as bad as Serbia.

Serbia has benefited from Belgrade being the capital of Yugoslavia, and getting a country of 20+ mill to dip all their resources into it. Albania had 800k people before WW2. And they still needed a miracle against Latvia not to tie like us, and need Sylvinho's help not to lose in Tirana. Try not getting embarrassed 5-0 against England with their superior genetics next time.

Aurora Bulkualis wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:35 am Albania hasn't succeeded at any sport because we had no historical major cities.

Albania HAS succeeded at sports like weightlifting and wrestling..

The greatest weightlifter ever Pirro Dhima was an Albanian product.

Albania has had medalists at the European championships and even a world champion (Ymer Pampuri) at weightlifting.

In wrestling, Albania has also had medalists at the European championships.

Elis Guri won Gold at the World Championships for Bulgaria after having competed previously for Albania.

Redijupison wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:46 pm

Dallku wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:31 pm

Redijupison wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:03 pm

Them being slavs has nothing to do with developing good players in this time and age. They might have had a better system on youth development in the 20th century, but that's no excuse as to why Albania is terrible in developing decent footballers nowadays.

It's the same with North Macedonia, Slovenia and now Kosovo(after being accepted in intl. federations), smaller populations, but are far more superior than Albania in sports.

It has everything to do with it because tradition/culture/DNA travels along time. It doesn't go away.

It explains why Kosovars were and still are horrific at sports all the other Yugoslavs thrived at: basketball, volleyball, handball, waterpolo, tennis, etc.. Kosovo has produced 0 top athletes at any of those sports even though they lived in a super pro-sport regime. That's shocking.

And don't give me that "we were held back" myth. Fadil Vokrri proved it was possible to make it. It was a socialist regime where everyone was equal and sports were a top priority unlike in Albania.

Btw what sports is Kosovo good at right now since you want to talk about present... female judo??? LMFAO

Dude, you must be very ignorant on the Kosovo matter! Albanians had barely any rights until the 1974 federal constitutional changes which were taken away in 1989. Fadil Vokrri and the Prekazi brothers are rare case.

Kosovo with its diaspora is proving that tradition/ culture/ DNA is actually bullshit and a lame excuse for football. You also have micro countries like Iceland that seem to have found the recipe on how to develope continually talented players. You're making it sound like Albanians are mentally and physically inferior to other Europians .

Judo is very popular all over the world, and being world class at it its absolutely impressive. Wtf is waterpolo, lmao?!

400 mije shqiptar i kan debu ne Turqi gjate qeverisjes se Rankoviqit, 80% e te burgosunve politik ne Jugosllavi jon kan shqiptar e veq 7% jon kan shqiptar ne Jugosllavi. Shkije, kroat, boshnjakt, malazezt, maqedon jon martu mes veti mas luftes dyte boterore, shqiptart kryesisht jane martu veq mes veti edhe pak a shume ne krejt ish republikat jugosllave shqiptarin e kan pa si qytetar te dores te dyte. Tradite per lojnat me dore ska pas po sallat sporteve ne Prishtine, Prizren, Gjakove, Mitrovice, Peje, Gjilan jane ndertu ne vitin 1976 e prape secili qytet mesatar apo te vogel ne Jugosllavi ka pas infrastrukture shumehere ma te mire se per qytete te medhaja mos te flasim. Per ni malazez, boshnjak, maqedon, slloven, kroat osht kan shumehere ma e thjesht, perveq qe kan pas klube ne vendet perkatese me infrastrukture te mire, ekspertize kur kan shku ne vende tjera nuk ekzistu paragjykimi e stigma ndaj tyne dmth i kan pas dyert e hapuna ndersa per shqiptart perveq te Partizani i Beogradit e te Hajduku i Splitit osht kan gati e pamundun. Perkunder krejt barrierave Trepca e Prishtina kan arrit me lujt ne Ligen e Pare te Jugosllavise ne futboll, Borci i Ferizajit ne Hendboll, Universiteti i Prishtines ne basketboll te femnave, Prishtina ka dal pese here kampion i Jugosllavise ne boks ndersa sporte individuale si karate e mundje ka pas kampiona nivel te Jugosllavise si te moshat edhe te seniorat. Per kohen e shkurt sa shqiptart e kan pas ni "shot" edhe pse jo kurre "fair shot" kan pas suksese te konsiderueshme. Prej 1990 ska pas ma sport, liga paralele te futbollit te Kosoves osht zhvillu neper livadhe e ara te Kosoves, sportet tjera skan pas qasje neper salla sportive bile as ne salla te shkollave fillore per edukate fizike. Me krahasu Kosoven me Malin e Zi qe osht nda me referendum ne 2006 apo Sllovenine qe osht nda pa asni therr ne kam edhe perveq qe trashegu super infrastrukture ka vazhdu me i njek standartet e Austrise e Gjermanise osht hajgare sidomos qe edhe pas shpalljes pavaresise Kosova ka pas shume problem me u bo pjese e federatave sportive me drejta te plota. Para pak diteve ke finalja e Eurobasketit, edhe dy lojtar te Turqise qe lujshin finale Kenan Sipahi edhe Ercan Osmani (prej Bajram Curri) e kan nis basketbollin ne Kosove perkatesisht ne Prishtine e ne Prizren para se me u transferu ne Turqi.