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vata10 wrote:Well Kelmendi to Ldk means one more guaranteed deputy for them, that's if he runs for them in the next elections.

I'm quite sceptical that gjykata speciale will affect that much Pdk. Kadri Veseli making the jump to the leader of Pdk, indicates that they've been prepared to deal with gjykata speciale.

Imo, the Pdk-Ldk coalition is the worst thing that has happend to the political scene in Kosove, it has totally killed the competition and who is to say they won't do it in the future?!

And even if your prediction was to be true, Vv would still need to get more than double of the votes they got in the last elections and AAK & Nisma to grow numbers to grow too. And it would still be hard for the opposition to form a winning coalition, lead by Vv. Not to mention Rambo's aims for the PM spot.

The other option is one that hurts, Vv in a coalition with either Pdk or Ldk. So Albin Kurti in anyway would have to give up alot(like Mustafa), just to become the PM.

I'm all for the first scenario though, but very sceptical at the same time.

I only mentioned Ilir Deda because he'd bring them votes, ignored his views not suited to Vv eventhough it doesn't hurt to have someone with different views in democracy.

Could you elaborate what you mean by active and growing?

P.S. I don't think that Pacolli's party will pass the 5% threshold to get seats in the parliament.

Don't even bother with Albo_beagle, lol.

One more deputy will not weigh up the damage the PDK-LDK agreement and the following chaos has done to LDK.

Did you watch the debate regarding UCK? - It's very clear that gjykata speciale will f*** PDK up majestically that's why they were attacking VV both days during those parliament meetings which is quite indicative when you're pressured.

We don't even need our assessment regarding the damage their coalition has done. Lol, 5% of the entire population left Kosova right after that coalition was formed. If that's not a sign of being damaging I don't know what is.

The beautiful thing about Albanians is that they support those who win. If VV came in first, you'd see a new political scene, and I wouldn't have problems if VV worked together with the non-corrupt MPs from LDK. Vjosa Osmani and those like her. In that case you'd have VV around maybe 22-23% and LDK around maybe 19-20% of the votes which will prompt AAK and Nisma to want to be part of that government and you'd be very likely to see the first purely Albanian government with no need of the minorities, even though the Turks, Bosniaks, Gypsies, Ashkalis etc. would also support that government.

And you'd have PDK alone in opposition with maybe Pacolli if they'll get enough votes to get into parliament.

Rambo can shove his ambitions up his ass, unless he's willing to make a coalition with PDK. And I believe he's in too deep now to form a coalition with PDK.

Regarding 'growing' and 'very active' - Since Albini was substituted with Visar Ymeri as the head of the movement, he's gone back to his old role as being the one to attract new people to the movement and they've gotten quite a few new members including some very smart people i.e. Dukagjin Gorani who's incredibly smart and very useful in a future government.

VV is meeting people every day and having meetings in different lagje, qytete, fshatra and organizing people more than ever before. They've done this before but they're doing it better now than ever before - also this last year of 'kundershtim kunder zajedinices dhe demarkacionit' has helped attracting people for them. Just see how Donika Kadaj-Bujupi left AAK after having worked with VV for some time. VV is very good at making people a part of them and attracting them to the movement. "Me i be per veti", if you've heard that expression in Albanian before you know what I mean.

Plako wrote:I agree but this has happened in Himara several times in the last 25 years. This is not Rama picking a fight with Himara, this Athens and Dule trying to make a meal out of nothing as is their policy. The same thing happened a while ago over a "monastery" Rama demolished and Rama tore Dule a new one. Will Rama gain some positive momentum now over this? Yes, but the elections are next Summer.

Rama thrives in these type of situations. He loves to engage in these type of debates and usually comes out ahead as this is what he loves to do.

I'm not saying he does it for momentum. He does it to deflect any debate about any real issues. Dule does it because elections are coming up and he needs Greek support, so they have this mutually beneficial symbiosis between them.

Migjeni wrote:I'm not saying he does it for momentum. He does it to deflect any debate about any real issues. Dule does it because elections are coming up and he needs Greek support, so they have this mutually beneficial symbiosis between them.

He's about to demolish 18 properties in Himara, 12 of which are illegally built and for the other 6 he's going to use eminent domain. That is no small feat knowing what he had to endure from the Greek side last year to demolish one building. So this year he baited them by posting a picture of Acropolis with a Minaret on top. Dule will as expected bitch about it and Rama goes on the counteroffensive and gets the public opinion behind him. Now he'll have no problem bringing the wrecking balls in Himara.

Rama's main plan has been to fix our coastline and Himara is an important part of it. He's doing a lot of work in Vlora too. The other big projects are the Shodra and new Tirana stadia and fixing up city centers all over Albania: Other than that there's not much going on in Albania economically speaking. We don't have an economy of significant importance and Rama was not going. To change that in the 3 years he's been in power.

The one thing Rama doesn't shy away from is debating issues, it's his favorite sport. When Berisha would not even deign to go to Fevziu (who btw suported Berisha) Rama would go every month to answer any questions. Did you see how fast he went to Prishtina to debate the analysts there



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Plako wrote:

Migjeni wrote:It's not because nationalism will make people vote for him. It's because these causes will defer attention from the economy which seems to be a weak point for Rama and his government and thus not harm them before the elections. We'll probably see many of these 'causes' in the time before elections.

The same is being done in Kosovë. All the bs regarding komb vs. perfaqesuese was to switch attention from the so-called Pronto-scandal.

#101 ruler techniques.

I agree but this has happened in Himara several times in the last 25 years. This is not Rama picking a fight with Himara, this Athens and Dule trying to make a meal out of nothing as is their policy. The same thing happened a while ago over a "monastery" Rama demolished and Rama tore Dule a new one. Will Rama gain some positive momentum now over this? Yes, but the elections are next Summer.

Rama thrives in these type of situations. He loves to engage in these type of debates and usually comes out ahead as this is what he loves to do.


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I watched all these devates between Rama and Dule. Can you please tell me more about this guy. He seems like the life version of the grek on this forum.

Plako wrote:

Migjeni wrote:I'm not saying he does it for momentum. He does it to deflect any debate about any real issues. Dule does it because elections are coming up and he needs Greek support, so they have this mutually beneficial symbiosis between them.

He's about to demolish 18 properties in Himara, 12 of which are illegally built and for the other 6 he's going to use eminent domain. That is no small feat knowing what he had to endure from the Greek side last year to demolish one building. So this year he baited them by posting a picture of Acropolis with a Minaret on top. Dule will as expected bitch about it and Rama goes on the counteroffensive and gets the public opinion behind him. Now he'll have no problem bringing the wrecking balls in Himara.

Rama's main plan has been to fix our coastline and Himara is an important part of it. He's doing a lot of work in Vlora too. The other big projects are the Shodra and new Tirana stadia and fixing up city centers all over Albania: Other than that there's not much going on in Albania economically speaking. We don't have an economy of significant importance and Rama was not going. To change that in the 3 years he's been in power.

The one thing Rama doesn't shy away from is debating issues, it's his favorite sport. When Berisha would not even deign to go to Fevziu (who btw suported Berisha) Rama would go every month to answer any questions. Did you see how fast he went to Prishtina to debate the analysts there



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Lool i liked that. Rama is very likeable in that aspect. He does not shy away whatsoever. In that interview in Prishtinë it was 6 people vs him and he absolutely annihilated them. The people in Kosovë were behind him 100 per cent as he wrecked the careers of those idiots.

vata10 wrote:

Albo_eagle wrote:
LOOOL i knew from the moment you said the word 'militants' that you were either a pdk or ldk 'loyal' person who cannot accept VV's rise. I am going to say ldk as they are the main one's who are refusing to acknowledge their party is here for no reason now as their support is completely gone. Shkurt e shqip jen parti kot.

As for 'don't kid yourself', you seem to be the one kiddimg yourself. I just gave you all the latest polls, if you were not to kid yourself you would of gave me some back and said you are wrong. Everything points to VV. You also said the public sector is the biggest employer, well my friend you sould know over 50% of people are unemployed in Kosovë.

Now i really do not need to convince you of the reality but if the big parties were not so scared of VV then why don't they just call snap elelctions to calm the public down? They are scared they will lose, each day it is worse for them.

Since i guess your a ldk person i want to tell you a little story. In the UK on the election year 2011 when the Lib Dems went into a coalition they had 57 seats and the next election had only 8. They lost 49. Ldk will follow the same fate. I promise you this. Every poll points to it and logic itself does as all they do is follow the command of pdk, so if any of their supporters agree they may aswell go to pdk and those who don't will come to the oposition.

Lastly, bringing up Ilir Deda really? No he is not a loss at all.

You're label me of being a loyal supporter of either Pdk or Ldk just for indicating that Vv militants might've voted the shit out of that poll and showing pessimism in Vv chances of winning elections in Kosove.

You're being even more ridiculous in comparing Kosovars to the British people .

I even read you quoting Rexhep Selimi one of the biggest crooks in Kosove, he's no different to the other war profiters.



I labelled you a ldk loyalist as they are the ones who use the word militants to describe VV supporters.

What you said about Rexhep Selimi is wrong and a very bad thing to say about someone who not only fought for this nation with a gun but is now fighting for it in parliment.

At the end of the day people think of VV suporters as people who like to argue with you that what you think is wrong, but that is over now. The support VV has means we don't need to do that. I am confident that any moment elections are held VV will come first.

I agree with you that Pacoli's party should not even get 5 per cent. He said recently he expects 20% in the next elections.

Albo_eagle wrote:I watched all these devates between Rama and Dule. Can you please tell me more about this guy. He seems like the life version of the grek on this forum.

Well they hail from the same region from what I know of LedZep

I don't know much about Dule but he is your typical ethnic Greek politician who does Athens' bidding in Albania. I don't find him dangerous at all, he just wants to benefit as much personally from this arrangement. For me the real danger comes from snakes like Janullatos.

You have to bear in mind that under Rama it's the first time that we have no ethnic Greeks representatives in the government.


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@ Migjeni

I won't counter your argument, as I think only time will tell what kind of effect Vv activeness outside the parliament will have.

Dukagjin Gorani joining is a good thing, imo. And they should aim more for the civil society organizations, to join Vv.

Plako wrote: The one thing Rama doesn't shy away from is debating issues, it's his favorite sport.

Rama doesn't shy away from retards like Berisha, but when Blushi is in parliament he's nowhere to be seen.

The one time he was there, Blushi completely eviscerated him to face. Rama was nervous as hell and shaking uncontrollably. He was even biting his tongue. It was all over the news, and Rama has never been there during a Blushi speech.

Plako wrote: Rama does not dabble in nationalism, he's from the school of Real Politik.

He's a bit too "real". Relying on drug dealers and thieves for votes, bending over to a Muslim dictator like Erdogan that pays poor Muslim Albanian women 50 bucks/month to wear head scarves and build an Ottoman mosque in Tirana, refusing to holding internal elections in his own party, refuses to hold referendums on importing garbage laws 90% of Albanians are against.
Those are the two choices in Albania: a fascist like Berisha that kills in cold blood, and a corrupt piece of filth like Rama.

The one good thing about politicians from RA has been not going into nationalism and religion. The fascist right wing party even instated laws helping out gay community. if they delve into nationalism/religion, that would be hitting 3rd world dictatorship level. If they hit that floor, end times are coming.

Aurora Bulkualis wrote:

Plako wrote: The one thing Rama doesn't shy away from is debating issues, it's his favorite sport.

Rama doesn't shy away from retards like Berisha, but when Blushi is in parliament he's nowhere to be seen.

The one time he was there, Blushi completely eviscerated him to face. Rama was nervous as hell and shaking uncontrollably. He was even biting his tongue. It was all over the news, and Rama has never been there during a Blushi speech.

Plako wrote: Rama does not dabble in nationalism, he's from the school of Real Politik.

He's a bit too "real". Relying on drug dealers and thieves for votes, bending over to a Muslim dictator like Erdogan that pays poor Muslim Albanian women 50 bucks/month to wear head scarves and build an Ottoman mosque in Tirana, refusing to holding internal elections in his own party, refuses to hold referendums on importing garbage laws 90% of Albanians are against.
Those are the two choices in Albania: a fascist like Berisha that kills in cold blood, and a corrupt piece of filth like Rama.

The one good thing about politicians from RA has been not going into nationalism and religion. The fascist right wing party even instated laws helping out gay community. if they delve into nationalism/religion, that would be hitting 3rd world dictatorship level. If they hit that floor, end times are coming.

You're right about Blushi. Rama can't win against Blushi so it's best for Rama to avoid him.

All of the other arguments are valid too. As to the Mosque I don't like it either. However, when you build a Catholic Cathedral and an Orthodox Church in the middle of Tirana, both with foreign money, the mosque was just a matter of time.



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