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[Aurora Bulkualis]

I would say 4-8 years.

PD is doomed. I can see them lose seats next year.

No matter what Berisha or PD do, they will always get 25%-30% of the vote.

[Plako]

I would say 4-8 years.

So basically this becomes Rama's mission. I like our chances with him at the helm and the reforms now will move at a faster once he consolidates his power after next year.




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[Aurora Bulkualis]

So basically this becomes Rama's mission. I like our chances with him at the helm and the reforms now will move at a faster once he consolidates his power after next year.

I'm not sure if Rama is even going to be PM next round. I mean I'll give it an 80% chance now, but 60% of people views PS negatively, and 70% view PD negatively. If Bojaxhi, with 0 name recognition, got 8% of the vote in Tirane for mayoral vote, I wouldn't be surprised if his party's and Blushi's got enough to deny a majority.

[Albo_eagle]

I think faster. 4 years max. Especially with Rama at the helm.

All depends on what happens with France and Holland, if one leaves the EU game over.

[Plako]

So basically this becomes Rama's mission. I like our chances with him at the helm and the reforms now will move at a faster once he consolidates his power after next year.

I'm not sure if Rama is even going to be PM next round. I mean I'll give it an 80% chance now, but 60% of people views PS negatively, and 70% view PD negatively. If Bojaxhi, with 0 name recognition, got 8% of the vote in Tirane for mayoral vote, I wouldn't be surprised if his party's and Blushi's got enough to deny a majority.

Bojaxhiu and Blushi may get 1-2 seats at most.


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[vata10]

Don't really rate his lyrics. I like Daï who was once part of Eki-Nox miles higher than almost any Albanian especially when it comes to lyrics, meaning and knowledge.

Yeah, Daï is quality and one of the top rappers in shqip-hop.

But that has no real historical grounds. Just look at those who signed the lidhja e Prizrenit. I believe a majority of them wished to stay under the Ottoman empire. So again; How do we define traditional? - We've been influenced by our parents who were influenced by a state where religion didn't play a part of life as it wasn't seen upon with any regard, that's why those in the media, politicians and people in general view these things as being foreign in the sense that they haven't been in Albanian lands before. They have - and for a long time.

Well, while Lidhja e Prizrenit didn't directly aim for the independent ethnic Albania, the autonomy Lidhja aimed for would've greatly improved our position in the Empire and get us ready for the independence afterwards.

I'm refering to the time after the fall of the Empire though and how Albanians were left to maintain the religion alive and organize it mostly without outside interferences and how it evolved. The occupator belonging to the opposite religon helped the imams be more patriotic and put the nation ahead of religion. Then you've got the famous story of the Serbian plan to tempt Albanians in leaving Kosove for Turkey, through imam-agents.

In between occured the Austro-Hungarian, Facsist and Nazi invasions, that probably helped Albanians in perceiving religion differently, cause of the people being able to get educated.

I agree that Communism did the most in getting Albanians to dump the beard and the veil. Imo, the biggest influence still has to be, the education in Albanian being allowed after ww2.

The ones that see the bearded imams and women wearing the veil as foreign in the way you described are probably very ignorant. People pointing out to a time were a hoxha was possibly the only literate person 99% of the time in his village, is wrong in many ways too.

Islami tradicional respects the the secularism of our states, nation ahead of religion and the pluralism of our nations faiths.

And yeah, of course there's a huge difference between the newly imported wahabi-strand of Islam and that which was practised during Ottoman times and after. But that's not just the case in Albanian lands - that's the case in much of the Arab countries too.

The Arabs allied with European Christians to kick the Ottoman Empire from their lands the moment the chance arrived to them. The difference between us and Arabs is that they're the supporters and exporters of these sects while we are at the other end.

What communists could do by force, we can't. I see it as a problem to constantly hype the rise of Islam in society as the more you pressure young people who are drawn to their faith, the more you'll push them away and in the hands of those who are extreme and will give them a place of belonging when society doesn't want them.

Trying religious education as a subject in primary and high shcool wouldn't be a bad idea after all.

We have to educate our own imams, priests etc. and not allow anyone with diplomas from Arab countries. Also religious institutions should be under strict control - but you have Naim Ternava and the likes of him who are closely linked with PDK and they've done their dirty work in each their spheres, so it'll be tough to get rid of them.

Well Ternava is very rich, so that explains it. And if you've heard of a poor imam, let me know!

Also, what's up with you and lyrics these past few days

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lol, lyrics are a good way to make a point and both the song of NR and Podrimja's poem are more than relevant.

[Aurora Bulkualis]

Bojaxhiu and Blushi may get 1-2 seats at most.

Nah, people are pissed dude. When 60% view sitting party negatively, and 70% view opposition negatively, something has got to give.

As I said, if a no name like Bojaxhi could get 8% in Tirana, someone with name recognition like Blushi might make major damage.

[Aurora Bulkualis]

Btw, gotta give it up to you Yanks. This election is better than fucking sports.

[Plako]

As I said, if a no name like Bojaxhi could get 8% in Tirana, someone with name recognition like Blushi might make major damage.

Well general elections will be different. I could see a Bolaxhiu-Blushi grab a few seats though I agree.



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[Aurora Bulkualis]

Well general elections will be different. I could see a Bolaxhiu-Blushi grab a few seats though I agree.

They are but I would say favourability towards minnows. In mayor races, it's winner take all, so that 8% is actually "wasted". In general elections, small % can get you seats so your vote is much more useful.

You literally have shit parties get 3-4 votes. Those guys will grab a lot more than that.