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Aurora Bulkualis wrote:Rama is too much of a dipshit to crack down on these morons. These guys have no connection to the Muslim community, and are obviously funded by shady sources. Every fucking journalist knows the exact spots where these morons congregate, yet the gov't does nothing.

Well it's just 10 mosques out of 850 that KMSH doesn't control:
http://m.top-channel.tv/lajme/artikull. ... 9&kryesore

Almost all mosques in Tirana are Wahhabi-mosques.

Migjeni wrote:Almost all mosques in Tirana are Wahhabi-mosques.

Yea religious muslims in Albania are way more extreme than the ones of Kosove or Macedonia. They wanna recover what they lost during commie time My sources in Albania (SHISH emploee) say that there are about 20 000 ready to die for Jihad

I just read an account from one guy who couldn't find a mosque in Tiranë which didn't have a a Wahhabi imam - and the one who couldn't find it is himself considered as an extremist to a certain extent, he's also from Tirana himself, but he doesn't see himself as an extremist and he doesn't support them he says. So I was kind of surprised that that's how things are in Albania - I didn't think that was the case.

There were about 200 mosques two years ago that had selfproclaimed imams. Most of them were closed because they didn't have the building permits , some of them "acepted" the KMSH autority althrough the imams say their own lithurgy the way they interpret the Quran. The media, government and the society has done a lot to reduce their activities but the fact that they're now with their backs to the wall , totally isolated can turn them into beasts ready to explode. There can be done a lot to reintegrate them to the society as peacefull believers . Most of them have had a difficult life. Mavraj and the imam of Elbasan could help on this . The government should do something, puting them to prison isn't a long term solution, it will make them more extreme and they will continue living in Albania after getting released.

I agree with you cornering and making people feel oppressed and under surveillance isn't the way to go. Re-socialisation is a major component which does not exist in our correctional facilities.

Also, we have a major problem with these self-taught and self-proclaimed imams. And even with those schooled outside of Albanian lands. We need a strategy which teaches all religions in our schools - but not by priests and imams, but by teachers who've been taught about these religions from a sociological standpoint. This will help our youth have an idea of what the different religions teach so they can't be brainwashed as easily as someone who has no basis and no knowledge about anything. You can tell him anything and he'll believe you as he won't know any better.

There is a new "mosque" (just a bunch of bricks thrown together with a speaker), every 100 meters all over central Albania, that stay empty most of the time. Yet they keep getting spammed all over.

Who is funding these buildings? Where is this money coming from? This shady source is corrupting politicians as well. It's either Erdogan or the Saudis, but I'm not sure.

Migjeni wrote: We need a strategy which teaches all religions in our schools

No fucking way. Because a couple of idiots want to become wannabe Arabs, we are to taint the non-religious majority? The majority of people don't give a f*** about religion in Albania. I want to keep it that way, even if some people are becoming more extremists.

Take a poll of this forum on how many RA Albos are religious compared to KS Albos. Almost all of us dislike religion. That's how Albania is like. We're not going to change that because of a few morons. Enver Hoxha did 1 good thing. Let's not f*** it up.

Simboli i Diellit wrote:They wanna recover what they lost during commie time

Does anyone blame Hoxha for banning religion at this point? I'm against gov't hurting people, but that was a brilliant decision. With the poverty in Albania, we've dodged a bullet.

Plako wrote:There is a theory that ISIS was created by the Americans, Brits and Israelis with the purpose to attract ALL extremists of the world to a one place,

Come on man. These are stupid conspiracy theories. ISIS arose out of new Shia Iraqi govt oppressing Sunnis, and spread geographically to Syria.

Aurora Bulkualis wrote:No fucking way. Because a couple of idiots want to become wannabe Arabs, we are to taint the non-religious majority? The majority of people don't give a f*** about religion in Albania. I want to keep it that way, even if some people are becoming more extremists.

Take a poll of this forum on how many RA Albos are religious compared to KS Albos. Almost all of us dislike religion. That's how Albania is like. We're not going to change that because of a few morons. Enver Hoxha did 1 good thing. Let's not f*** it up.

Knowledge doesn't taint anyone. Ignorance does. You keep promoting ignorance, we've seen how that has worked out for us for a century now. Please continue.

Ignorance of religion? Yes, please.

As I said, I'd rather let a couple of idiots become extremists, than start teaching kids about religion. The masses are inherently ignorant. Teaching about religion means presenting the viewpoints that religion is used for brainwashing. Will they do that? No. Better to keep religion altogether away from them, then to start teaching between "good"/"bad", which will definitely make them see religion in a more positive light.