artan wrote:I know some of you guys mention this but how so? Because they purchased many of their players? Seems like Dinamo had poor management/finances and a team like Skenderbeu capitalized. It's dirty but it's fair. Teams do that all the time(ex-Bayern).
I do like SKenderbeu's scouting network. They did a good job in landing unknown players like Berisha, Latifi, Jashanica, etc.
Skenderbeu got directly promoted to the Superliga in the 2009 season as a runner-up in the second division. In the 2010 season, when Dinamo were crowned champions, Skenderbeu escaped direct relegation on the last day of the campaign and it widely reported that the matches were fixed (nothing out of the ordinary for the Superliga).
This is where things begin getting interesting. Dinamo was "forced" to sell 6 of its top players to Skenderbeu. At the time Dinamo was owned by Besnik Sula (most famously known as the owner of the Taiwan complex and casino). Skenderbeu then goes on to win the next title in 2011 while Dinamo's owner is being openly attacked by Berisha's government (not gonna go into the reasons here).
In the next campaign Dinamo gets relegated and the battle to strip the club of its most most prized asset (the multi-sport athletic complex) heats up. The Club is soon after stripped of its assets and the complex is then awarded to the Albanian Olympic Committee. I think Sula then gave up on supporting the club financially. Dinamo has not recovered since.
Skendebeu is not a "professional" club no matter how hard they scream about it. Dinamo was that and more before Skenderbeu dismantled it. Who is to say Dinamo would not have as successful as Skenderbeu if they weren't targeted in a concerted effort by Duka, Bode, Takaj & Co.
Skenderbeu is not some fairy tale Albanian version of Leicester City, it is a shady enterprise built by ill reputable elements and used as a vehicle for personal enrichment of the aforementioned individuals. It is the Sheriff Tiraspol of Albania.
That's interesting. I remember someone saying something like that in the past(probably was you actually) but that's some shady shit.
On one hand I want Skenderbeu to get the axe to send a message to the Superliga teams but I also know it may have ripple effects on the league. But either way it may be an end of an era for Skenderbeu if Josa decides to leave. I heard he was looking at some Asian clubs. Expect some of their bigger players to leave since no European football and some financial restrictions for Skenderbeu.
It might have been Doc actually, he's a Dinamo fan. This is general knowledge for the long time followers of Superliga. I honestly don't want Skenderbeu to be destroyed, I just want the rest of the team to raise their level so the overall level of the league grows as well.
I also like the fact that another city, other than Tirana is finally dominating Superliga. Dinamo had a small fanbase and even at their height in post-90's Albania they generated very little support. If a third team from Tirana joined Superliga i rather have Kamza than Dianmo as they have a bigger following (although it's a Partizani stronghold if I'm not mistaken).
anyways these betting scandals have to stop. I have completely lost faith in the honesty of the results in the league. Even when Partizani wins I can't enjoy as I am always thinking on the back of my head: what if they just bought the game. it sucks
artan wrote:I know some of you guys mention this but how so? Because they purchased many of their players? Seems like Dinamo had poor management/finances and a team like Skenderbeu capitalized. It's dirty but it's fair. Teams do that all the time(ex-Bayern).
I do like SKenderbeu's scouting network. They did a good job in landing unknown players like Berisha, Latifi, Jashanica, etc.
Skenderbeu got directly promoted to the Superliga in the 2009 season as a runner-up in the second division. In the 2010 season, when Dinamo were crowned champions, Skenderbeu escaped direct relegation on the last day of the campaign and it widely reported that the matches were fixed (nothing out of the ordinary for the Superliga).
This is where things begin getting interesting. Dinamo was "forced" to sell 6 of its top players to Skenderbeu. At the time Dinamo was owned by Besnik Sula (most famously known as the owner of the Taiwan complex and casino). Skenderbeu then goes on to win the next title in 2011 while Dinamo's owner is being openly attacked by Berisha's government (not gonna go into the reasons here).
In the next campaign Dinamo gets relegated and the battle to strip the club of its most most prized asset (the multi-sport athletic complex) heats up. The Club is soon after stripped of its assets and the complex is then awarded to the Albanian Olympic Committee. I think Sula then gave up on supporting the club financially. Dinamo has not recovered since.
Skendebeu is not a "professional" club no matter how hard they scream about it. Dinamo was that and more before Skenderbeu dismantled it. Who is to say Dinamo would not have as successful as Skenderbeu if they weren't targeted in a concerted effort by Duka, Bode, Takaj & Co.
Skenderbeu is not some fairy tale Albanian version of Leicester City, it is a shady enterprise built by ill reputable elements and used as a vehicle for personal enrichment of the aforementioned individuals. It is the Sheriff Tiraspol of Albania.
That's interesting. I remember someone saying something like that in the past(probably was you actually) but that's some shady shit.
On one hand I want Skenderbeu to get the axe to send a message to the Superliga teams but I also know it may have ripple effects on the league. But either way it may be an end of an era for Skenderbeu if Josa decides to leave. I heard he was looking at some Asian clubs. Expect some of their bigger players to leave since no European football and some financial restrictions for Skenderbeu.
Skenderbode do ta kete pisk punen nese largohet Duka dhe nese falimenton zyra e propagandes SUPERSPORT se per Mirelin nuk e rruan kush trapin, trajneri eshte njeriu me pak meritor per 'sukseset' e tyre. Historine se si u 'themelua' Skenderbode e sqaroj Plako por harroj te permend qe Shqiperia ishte i vetmi vend i botes ku kryetari i federates se futbollit ishte partner biznesi me pronarin e klubit Agim Zeqo (ne vitin kur ju vodh Flamurtarit titulli) .Nuk ka dileme qe Skenderbode u shendrrua ne skuadren ma cilesore te kampionatit shqiptar por cdo organ i FSHF-se ka qene ne sherbim te tyre sa here kishin nevoje, arbitrat i refuzu dhe i ka zgjedh Takaj si ja ka dasht qejfi, nuk mbaj mend te kete ndodhur ndonje denim i 'ashper' per futbollistat e Skenderbeu nga Komisiioni i Disiplines apo Etikes. Rol te madh ne kete skeme per mos te thene kryesorin e kane mediat, ato kryejn me shume 'profesionalizem' punen e tyre, cdo jave ne studiot televizive ke mundesi te degjosh idiotesi te gjitha llojeve , tipa qe mundohen te arsyetojn e relativizojn gabimet skandaloze te arbitrave. Nuk jane te paafte,besoj qe e njohin shume mire rregulloren por Janku,Pregja apo Zajmi te gjithe jane rrogtar te Fshf-se dhe relativizimi eshte 'zyrtarisht' detyra e tyre. Ju duket i rastesishem 'black out'-ti medial ne lidhje me trukimet e Skenderbodes? Me kujtohet kur filluan raportimet e para te FederBet , Supersporti e kish pergadit nje kronike cinike qe shkojke aq larg sa e konsiderojke FederBet e BetRadarin si institucione jo kredibile. Heshtja disa ditore e Fshf-se (Supersport) pati pak efekt tek opinioni shqiptar, shume nuk jan te bindun qe Skenderbeu nuk eshte fajtor se ka mungu zhurma e buja e madhe ne medium. Nuk besoj qe Uefa i rrezikon ma shume se 30 milione euro me denu Skenderboden pa prova.
P.S Simboli shkrujta shqip se nuk po du neser me na akuzu Takaj qe Uefa 'provat' i ka marr te Albanian football forum.
Wth is going on at Skenderbeu? Berisha already sold, players retiring, Vangjeli moving to Romania, Salihi leaving for Switzerland/Asutria. The team looks like it's being liquidated within a few months.
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Looks like what you guys said about Skenerbeu was true
5 ndeshje të Ligës së Kampioneve, 2 ndeshje të Europa League, 41 ndeshje të Kampionatit Shqiptar dhe Kupës së Shqipërisë si dhe 6 ndeshje miqësore”
UEFA found that they fixed/manipulated at least 5 Champions League matches, 2 Europa League matches, 41 league matches and 6 friendlies in a span of 6 years(no coincidence they won the league 6 years in a row...)
FSHF needs to relegate them to the third league or something.
FSHF is well connected with them. In kategori e pare they fix matches with their refs. The FA is at the limits of amateur management, they've been delaying leagues for over one month. Beselidhja has been training last two months and the season gets delayed to october because some clubs don't pay their quotes . I know we will be rooting again in that league but denying the few pro clubs at that level to have a decent agonistic competition without taking actions for other teams always produces chaos.
The FA probably knew everything about Skenderbeu and all other teams that sell matches . They must get a slice in it since they did and will do nothing. At least Skenderbeu should lose all their titles and play in third division with -20 points to make an example of it. They did the same for Juve in calciopoli here , if they can do it to big clubs why can't be done to Skenderbeu.
artan wrote:
FSHF needs to relegate them to the third league or something.
Oh please.
Every Albanian team is dirty as hell. Please take a look at the 90th minute penalty Partizani got this past week to win the game. it will blow your mind.
Teuta makes the Euro cups every year for the sole purpose to fix games...
Difference between Skenderbeu and these clowns is that Skenderbeu wants to win while doing their "business" while the others don't mind losing all the time and embarrassing the entire country.
