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Re: Albania's not producing decent footballers anymore?!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:06 pm
by Plako
Aurora Bulkualis wrote:
Migjeni wrote:I know it's only a short clip, but damn... Back when Flamurtari were teaching Barcelona what tika-taka is.
https://www.facebook.com/palma.sport.96 ... 5263215495
They faced Barcelona 4 times in 2 years, and only lost 1 tie.

And contrary to what people say, Barca was still a top team then. Recently to those games, 1986, they were European Cup finalists. From 1970s to 1990s, players like Cruyff, Maradona, Guardiola, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Stoichkov, Figo all played for Barca.
Also of note is that the 87/88 tie was the quarterfinal of the UEFA Cup too. Barca lost the European Cup final in 1986 to Steaua and won its first in 1992 during those years. Back then only the champions played in the European Cup, the predecessor to the CL.

I still maintain the 1980's was the golden age of the Albanian club football with Tirana (4 titiles), Dinamo (2 titles), Partizani (2 titles), Vllaznia (1 title), Labinoti Elbasan (1 title) and Flamurtari (3 years in a row runners up) all being in excellent form. Unfortunately the fall of communism led to a rapid decline in club football which took us almost 20 years to recover from and I don't believe we'll ever reach those heights again. What Flamurtari did is definitely impossible to repeat at club level now, where we're just happy to pass a first couple of rounds and have become notonrious for match fixing. Gone are the ideals and the money/corruption has taken over football just like every facet of Albanian life.

Re: Albania's not producing decent footballers anymore?!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:23 pm
by Plako
Simboli i Diellit wrote:Barca had only Gary Lineker. They were what Valencia is today.
Yes they started their ascendancy with the hiring of Cruyff in 1988 but they were European Cup finalist in 1986 and only lost in penalties to Steaua.

Re: Albania's not producing decent footballers anymore?!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:04 am
by ZenMaster
Simboli i Diellit wrote:
Plako wrote:Simboli is Kukesi going to win the title? I know you mentioned it about 3-4 months ago but I thought you were joking. Looks pretty serious now that they'll win it.
Duke pa tendencen ne fillim kampionati dhe uljen e tensioneve mes Gjicit e Takajt te jep idene se kane ra dakord . Skenderbeu vec do i prishe pune Partizanit ne luften per titull . Nga ana tjeter Skenderbeu rrezikon penalizime nga Uefa e me shume mundesi ate spotin qe i jep mundesi te arrihen grupet e EL me kollaj do ia leri Kukesit ket vit. Ato e shperben skudren krejtesisht e besoj me blerjet e reja vec po ndertojne nje grup per te ardhmen. Kukesi nga ana tjeter kerkon me ngulm kampionatin se ka vite qe del i dyti dhe Gjici mund te paguaje te arrije objektivin.

Per sa i perket kupes ket vit pervec Beselidhjes qe eshte nga kat e pare te gjitha te tjerat kane shance.

Teteshja e kupes formula:

Skenderbeu - Laci
Ndeshet kunder :
Kukesi -Tirana

Flamurtari-Beselidhja
ndeshet kunder :
Teuta - Vllaznia


Flamurtari e Vllaznia kane rrugetim me te lehte per ne finale. Besoj Laci i len ndeshjet e kupes Skenderbeut per pike ne kampionat (e kunderta ndodhte sezonet e fundit ). Kukesi mund Tiranen dhe i len gjysmefinalen Skenderbeut.


Ne finale Skenderbeu vs Flamurtari ose Vllaznia .
Takaj eshte ne vitet e fundit te menaxhimit te Skenderbeut dhe largimi i tij do te zyrtarizohet pas denimit disavjecar . Fati i klubit Skenderbeu do varet nga denimi i Uefas, nese nuk do ta zbresin nga kategoria atehere do ta mbajn ne Superiore per ti sherbyer sistemit sic jane Laci dhe Teuta sot. Korca eshte tashme eshte nje "Limon i shtrydhur" dhe e ka mbyllur njehere historine e saj me kampionatet ndoshta kete vit do te fitoj kupen. Fakti qe Takaj nuk ka investuar asnje cent ne infrastrukture, ne akademi apo nuk ka pasur asnje tentative per ta privatizuar klubin perkunder marredhenieve te shkelqyera me kryetarin e Bashkise tregon qe planet e tij tek Korca ishin te perkohshme. Kur i shton sot estraden e sotme ne Lac dhe guximin prej budallenjeve te dyshes Laskaj- Takaj atehere e kupton qe cirku ka mbaru pune ne Korce. Me emrin Takaj i referohem sistemit te ndertuar nga Mbreti sepse Ardian Takaj eshte vetem nje lojtar perifik ne gjithe kete histori, si biznesmen eshte i falimentuar thjesht kukell e dyshes Duka-Nuri. objektivi i sivjetshem duket te jete Kukesi kampion, Flamurtari te largohet nga kategoria dhe te shpetohen me cdo kusht Laci dhe Teuta.. Cirku do te kete vetem nje ndalese te shkurt ne Kukes ndersa me shume mundesi destinacioni i ardhshem do te jete "djepi i futbollit". Shpejt u harrua Sulaj, Zeqo e njejta gje do te ndodhi me Takajn.

Re: Albania's not producing decent footballers anymore?!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:02 pm
by Aurora Bulkualis
Plako wrote:
Aurora Bulkualis wrote:
Migjeni wrote:I know it's only a short clip, but damn... Back when Flamurtari were teaching Barcelona what tika-taka is.
https://www.facebook.com/palma.sport.96 ... 5263215495
They faced Barcelona 4 times in 2 years, and only lost 1 tie.

And contrary to what people say, Barca was still a top team then. Recently to those games, 1986, they were European Cup finalists. From 1970s to 1990s, players like Cruyff, Maradona, Guardiola, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Stoichkov, Figo all played for Barca.
Also of note is that the 87/88 tie was the quarterfinal of the UEFA Cup too. Barca lost the European Cup final in 1986 to Steaua and won its first in 1992 during those years. Back then only the champions played in the European Cup, the predecessor to the CL.

I still maintain the 1980's was the golden age of the Albanian club football with Tirana (4 titiles), Dinamo (2 titles), Partizani (2 titles), Vllaznia (1 title), Labinoti Elbasan (1 title) and Flamurtari (3 years in a row runners up) all being in excellent form. Unfortunately the fall of communism led to a rapid decline in club football which took us almost 20 years to recover from and I don't believe we'll ever reach those heights again. What Flamurtari did is definitely impossible to repeat at club level now, where we're just happy to pass a first couple of rounds and have become notonrious for match fixing. Gone are the ideals and the money/corruption has taken over football just like every facet of Albanian life.
Yeah, football is very different today. Teams like Steaua and Red Star winning European titles is impossible.

Re: Albania's not producing decent footballers anymore?!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:09 pm
by Plako
ZenMaster wrote:Cirku do te kete vetem nje ndalese te shkurt ne Kukes ndersa me shume mundesi destinacioni i ardhshem do te jete "djepi i futbollit".
Vllaznia?

Re: Albania's not producing decent footballers anymore?!

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:35 am
by ZenMaster
Plako wrote:
ZenMaster wrote:Cirku do te kete vetem nje ndalese te shkurt ne Kukes ndersa me shume mundesi destinacioni i ardhshem do te jete "djepi i futbollit".
Vllaznia?
Lut Nuri po paguan aktualisht Elis Bakajn, Bashkia Shkoder po ben gati qe te hedh ne treg aksionet, stadiumi do ngelet ne menaxhimin e Bashkise.

Re: Albania's not producing decent footballers anymore?!

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:56 am
by Plako
ZenMaster wrote:
Plako wrote:
ZenMaster wrote:Cirku do te kete vetem nje ndalese te shkurt ne Kukes ndersa me shume mundesi destinacioni i ardhshem do te jete "djepi i futbollit".
Vllaznia?
Lut Nuri po paguan aktualisht Elis Bakajn, Bashkia Shkoder po ben gati qe te hedh ne treg aksionet, stadiumi do ngelet ne menaxhimin e Bashkise.
Lutfi Nuri eshte katnar Tirone. Cne me Vllaznine ai?

Re: Albania's not producing decent footballers anymore?!

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:31 am
by Simboli i Diellit
Djep Futbolli i referohet Tirons. E cuditshme qe nuk kena tifoz te tirans ktu ne forum. Ose e kan keq me gjuhen ose jan Fanatik :P

Re: Albania's not producing decent footballers anymore?!

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:02 am
by Simboli i Diellit
How much has un-evolved this Zeqiri. We were talking about him being part of the national team not long ago : http://www.supersport.al/debate-ne-vlor ... ra-e-pare/

Re: Albania's not producing decent footballers anymore?!

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:29 am
by ZenMaster
Plako wrote:
ZenMaster wrote:
Plako wrote:
Vllaznia?
Lut Nuri po paguan aktualisht Elis Bakajn, Bashkia Shkoder po ben gati qe te hedh ne treg aksionet, stadiumi do ngelet ne menaxhimin e Bashkise.
Lutfi Nuri eshte katnar Tirone. Cne me Vllaznine ai?
Ca lidhje ka Ardian Takaj me Korcen?