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Re: Albanians abroad
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:26 am
by Aurora Bulkualis
To be honest, I don't care how bad Vrioni is, or how bad Manaj was. The more Albos we get at top clubs like Barcelona or Juventus the better, even if on the bench or with few minutes. They're pushing the expectations/boundaries for other Albos to follow in their footsteps, and making it "normal" to wear these jerseys.
I read an interview with Kallaku when he stated my next goal is to join Top 4 league, right after going to Croatia, and rejected Turkey because he felt Croatia was a better springboard. This has been come "the path" because many others before him followed a similar model. Playing in Serie A is no longer a "dream" but an expectation of any talented player.
Re: Albanians abroad
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:21 am
by CanaYouDoIt
artan wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:06 am
CanaYouDoIt wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:03 am
Dallku wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:19 am
Sounds like his NT debut.
Whoever his agent is must be a magician.
Played for Italy in the youth teams so they must see something in him . I’ll give him to 23/24 to shine . Bit like Calvert Lewin of Everton , I’d heard last year before he took off that he’s great in training . Just a matter of getting bigger and gaining experience
Calvert Lewin has 142 appearances with Everton (EPL) and even scored 13 league goals last year. Vrioni has 28 Serie B appearances with one goal scored. He's just not a good player.
Calvert Lewin was absolutely terrible. He took off last year finally. That’s what I am saying , give Vrioni time because it’s a possibility. He’s playing for Juve , that’s a huge thing for us .
Re: Albanians abroad
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:06 pm
by Dallku
You keep bringing up that Calvert Lewin example but he was always talented. 7 goals for England u21... fast, strong, technical, athletic.. Vrioni is literally the opposite of all that.
It's like if Broja sucks ass for a while and then start to show up again. That wouldn't be too surprising because he always had raw talent.
Re: Albanians abroad
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:16 pm
by artan
Vrioni needs playing time. If he's still with Juventus until the end of the season he's just gonna end up not playing at all this season and wasted a crucial year of his development. Even if it's at a Serie B team, a team in Austria, or wherever.
Valon Ethemi signs with Istanbulsporit, the same team that has Rroca and Abazaj. The three guys were part of Kukesi last year. Maybe they become the Lokomotiv Zagreb of Turkey. New wave of Albanian players going to Turkey which should help Superliga players.
Re: Albanians abroad
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:32 pm
by Dallku
artan wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:16 pm
Vrioni needs playing time. If he's still with Juventus until the end of the season he's just gonna end up not playing at all this season and wasted a crucial year of his development. Even if it's at a Serie B team, a team in Austria, or wherever.
Valon Ethemi signs with Istanbulsporit, the same team that has Rroca and Abazaj. The three guys were part of Kukesi last year. Maybe they become the Lokomotiv Zagreb of Turkey. New wave of Albanian players going to Turkey which should help Superliga players.
It's 2nd division so obviously it's low level but they still play at a much higher tempo than in Croatia and they have a better chance of improving there as players. Vedat Muriqi is a good example of one who made it.
Abazaj and Rroca should probably be tested in the NT. Yeah it doesn't feel good calling up players from leagues like that but they are both interesting players talent wise.
Re: Albanians abroad
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:45 pm
by CanaYouDoIt
Dallku wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:06 pm
You keep bringing up that Calvert Lewin example but he was always talented. 7 goals for England u21... fast, strong, technical, athletic.. Vrioni is literally the opposite of all that.
It's like if Broja sucks ass for a while and then start to show up again. That wouldn't be too surprising because he always had raw talent.
I keep bringing up DCL because he was nothing like he is right now . He had height and speed but that was it , he didn’t have a good touch , couldn’t finish and wasn’t strong for his size .
The point being guys can develop and Vrioni is at Juve , that should be celebrated and he should be encouraged
Re: Albanians abroad
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:41 pm
by artan
Dallku wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:32 pm
artan wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:16 pm
Vrioni needs playing time. If he's still with Juventus until the end of the season he's just gonna end up not playing at all this season and wasted a crucial year of his development. Even if it's at a Serie B team, a team in Austria, or wherever.
Valon Ethemi signs with Istanbulsporit, the same team that has Rroca and Abazaj. The three guys were part of Kukesi last year. Maybe they become the Lokomotiv Zagreb of Turkey. New wave of Albanian players going to Turkey which should help Superliga players.
It's 2nd division so obviously it's low level but they still play at a much higher tempo than in Croatia and they have a better chance of improving there as players. Vedat Muriqi is a good example of one who made it.
Abazaj and Rroca should probably be tested in the NT. Yeah it doesn't feel good calling up players from leagues like that but they are both interesting players talent wise.
It's definitely not ideal but when you lack any wide players it is what it is. The turkish league is so weird in general. It's so diluted since the top league has 21 teams and it seems like half the clubs are just badly mismanaged with tons of corruption. But then you have some prestigious clubs and alot of money being poured in for stadiums or for transfers. Instabulsporit also looks like they're gonna get promoted
I just think it's good to have another outlet for Albanian domestic players to transfer to. Croatia, Turkey and even Hungary seems like emerging markets for Albanian players. Hopefully soon it'll start resulting in transfer fees for Albanian clubs.
Re: Albanians abroad
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:07 pm
by Simboli i Diellit
Kumbulla had a rough start of the match against Milan but after the first minutes he was quite solid. Scored the equalizer at the end of the game. He is scoring more than our strikers

Re: Albanians abroad
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:52 pm
by Aurora Bulkualis
He got too excited at the end there. Bad marking on Romagnoli who could have easily scored.
Most of the game he was pretty good, but made 1-2 bad mistakes in marking.
Re: Albanians abroad
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:43 pm
by Plako
Simboli i Diellit wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:07 pm
Kumbulla had a rough start of the match against Milan but after the first minutes he was quite solid. Scored the equalizer at the end of the game. He is scoring more than our strikers
Such a great assist from Ibra there
