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There is no future for these kind of people and there should be 0 tolerance. NATO should act now!

artan wrote:Arabs... These guys are still stuck in the 6th century.

Yeah they should be more modern and kill hundreds of thousands like the US has done in the Middle East for the past 10 years. Please get your head out of the sand and think who really benefits from these attacks and then you'll have your answer.

Dragoi wrote:There is no future for these kind of people and there should be 0 tolerance. NATO should act now!

Yeah they totally should since until now it's only the U.S. that had been doing the killing for NATO.

Plako wrote: Yeah they totally should since until now it's only the U.S. that had been doing the killing for NATO.

Half a million confirmed as killed by US army up to 2011 only in Iraq. Probably even one million but i think we shouldn't compare those stats because are in different contexts. Most iraqi casualities were grown man who died fighting against the US so in one way they choose their own destiny unlike tonight's people . These inocents hurt more than the Iraqi or US casualities althrough they might have been very numerous. ISIS should be fought and not by bombing but in field invasion.

Dragoi wrote:Half a million confirmed as killed by US army up to 2011 only in Iraq. Probably even one million but i think we shouldn't compare those stats because are in different contexts. Most iraqi casualities were grown man who died fighting against the US so in one way they choose their own destiny unlike tonight's people . These inocents hurt more than the Iraqi or US casualities althrough they might have been very numerous. ISIS should be fought and not by bombing but in field invasion.

Po shum kollaj ti thjeshtezpjme gjerat. Kush mendon se eshte pas atij grupimi? U bene ca bythpalare Arabe kaq te sofistikuar te organizojne dhe te pushtojne pothuajse gjysmen a Sirise dhe Irakut. Lufta eshte biznesi i Amerikes dhe keto sulme thjesht sherbejne qe te influencojne opinionin publik pro Luftrave qe s'mbaroine kurre.

Nejse do zoti mbaroi me kaq se Paris se popullit te shkrete i bie e keqja mbi koke gjithmone.

Really don't get Plako's craving for stupid demagoguery. Without those "modern" Americans, Kosova would be part of Serbia today. Without those "modern" Americans, Europe would be in ruins for decades after WWII. They overthrow dictators, and if the people are not completely retarded like in Kosova, they get a new state. How is it their fault that in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, Egypt, the people who take over are 100x worse than the dictators that were overthrown?

We're aware of the military-industrial complex, but that's like saying because FSHF is corrupt, we shouldn't respect our NT players.

Plako wrote:
Po shum kollaj ti thjeshtezpjme gjerat. Kush mendon se eshte pas atij grupimi? U bene ca bythpalare Arabe kaq te sofistikuar te organizojne dhe te pushtojne pothuajse gjysmen a Sirise dhe Irakut. Lufta eshte biznesi i Amerikes dhe keto sulme thjesht sherbejne qe te influencojne opinionin publik pro Luftrave qe s'mbaroine kurre.

Nejse do zoti mbaroi me kaq se Paris se popullit te shkrete i bie e keqja mbi koke gjithmone.

Po t'ja fillojme me teori konspirative atehere perfundojme edhe tek levizjet ekstremiste Europjane si Brigate Rosse , ETA apo te tjera qe akuzoheshin si te financuara nga USA apo CIA . Ky grupimi ISIS per cdo peng merrte miljona , kontrollojne zona me puse/rafineri nafte . Normalisht qe u krijuan ne burgjet amerikane ne Irak po lidhjet e thashethemet se financohen nga CIA jane aluzione duke qene se agjencite e kunderzbulimit Europjane e Ruse nuk i mbeshtesin si teori konspirative.

Keto sulme mberrijne ne nje moment delikat te fluksit te refugjateve nga lindja e mesme dhe duke pare tendencat konservatore e neonaziste ne rritje ateher pres qe se shpejti ndalimi i ketij fluksi rrefugjatesh te jete rraprezdalja e pare. ISIS duhet te luftohet e duhet te kete perfshirje me te gjere ne kete lufte, viktimat e pra deri tani ishin vete muslimanet shiite apo suni qe nuk i bindeshin ligjit te tyre.

Nuk ka interes direkt per perfshirje ne lufte nga ana e vendeve Europjane pasi harxhohen resurse njerezore e ekonomike per çeshtje qe nuk jane prioritet i bllokut blu.

Aurora Bulkualis wrote:Really don't get Plako's craving for stupid demagoguery. Without those "modern" Americans, Kosova would be part of Serbia today. Without those "modern" Americans, Europe would be in ruins for decades after WWII. They overthrow dictators, and if the people are not completely retarded like in Kosova, they get a new state. How is it their fault that in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, Egypt, the people who take over are 100x worse than the dictators that were overthrown?

We're aware of the military-industrial complex, but that's like saying because FSHF is corrupt, we shouldn't respect our NT players.

They also overthrow people who were elected democratically.

Plako wrote:

Dragoi wrote:Half a million confirmed as killed by US army up to 2011 only in Iraq. Probably even one million but i think we shouldn't compare those stats because are in different contexts. Most iraqi casualities were grown man who died fighting against the US so in one way they choose their own destiny unlike tonight's people . These inocents hurt more than the Iraqi or US casualities althrough they might have been very numerous. ISIS should be fought and not by bombing but in field invasion.

Po shum kollaj ti thjeshtezpjme gjerat. Kush mendon se eshte pas atij grupimi? U bene ca bythpalare Arabe kaq te sofistikuar te organizojne dhe te pushtojne pothuajse gjysmen a Sirise dhe Irakut. Lufta eshte biznesi i Amerikes dhe keto sulme thjesht sherbejne qe te influencojne opinionin publik pro Luftrave qe s'mbaroine kurre.

Nejse do zoti mbaroi me kaq se Paris se popullit te shkrete i bie e keqja mbi koke gjithmone.

I'm no stranger to America's foreign policy and especially in recent history of arming "Moderate" rebels which later linked up with ISIS. And I'm very aware that war is a very profitable business for the big defense contractors and the people involved. That's why many powerful figures in the US are always itching for war.

But that being said many Muslims(non European origin) have failed to integrate into Europe. Before you say about America's foreign policy I don't how that relates to Middle Easterners/paki's refusing to integrate in Sweden or France(I understand France has a colonial past). These countries bend over for these immigrants and offer them prospects of a much better life than their former country men will ever enjoy. Many times free housing, education, welfare, etc, but they squander it because they aren't compatible with Western Civilization.

I'm not trying to say their inferior but they come from a different culture. A culture that is very religious, strict and a bit close minded. That's quite the contrary to a country like Sweden where it's the complete opposite on the spectrum where gay rights, transgender, equality, feminism, lgbtq, etc, is taught from a young age. Think about it in many Arab countries women don't have any rights and then they go to countries where men can suddenly become women and get treated like a hero? Taught things in school that goes against their own personal religious beliefs? It causes alienation and it actually gets worst with the descendants of the immigrants.

That's why I'm saying these immigrants either need to somewhat conform to the local culture or leave.

Pjetër wrote:They also overthrow people who were elected democratically.

[img]http://axisoflogic.com/artman/uploads/1/salvador-allende.jpg[/img]

You rarely hear about the overthrow of Allende in the press, the one you hear the most often about is Mossadegh because it eventually led to the rise of Khomeini.

It's useless to even have a discussion about politics anymore when you have people who know the history, yet choose to completely ignore it. Imagine having a discussion about these topics with an American. We truly live in an Orwellian world.

artan wrote:

Plako wrote:

Dragoi wrote:Half a million confirmed as killed by US army up to 2011 only in Iraq. Probably even one million but i think we shouldn't compare those stats because are in different contexts. Most iraqi casualities were grown man who died fighting against the US so in one way they choose their own destiny unlike tonight's people . These inocents hurt more than the Iraqi or US casualities althrough they might have been very numerous. ISIS should be fought and not by bombing but in field invasion.

Po shum kollaj ti thjeshtezpjme gjerat. Kush mendon se eshte pas atij grupimi? U bene ca bythpalare Arabe kaq te sofistikuar te organizojne dhe te pushtojne pothuajse gjysmen a Sirise dhe Irakut. Lufta eshte biznesi i Amerikes dhe keto sulme thjesht sherbejne qe te influencojne opinionin publik pro Luftrave qe s'mbaroine kurre.

Nejse do zoti mbaroi me kaq se Paris se popullit te shkrete i bie e keqja mbi koke gjithmone.

I'm no stranger to America's foreign policy and especially in recent history of arming "Moderate" rebels which later linked up with ISIS. And I'm very aware that war is a very profitable business for the big defense contractors and the people involved. That's why many powerful figures in the US are always itching for war.

But that being said many Muslims(non European origin) have failed to integrate into Europe. Before you say about America's foreign policy I don't how that relates to Middle Easterners/paki's refusing to integrate in Sweden or France(I understand France has a colonial past). These countries bend over for these immigrants and offer them prospects of a much better life than their former country men will ever enjoy. Many times free housing, education, welfare, etc, but they squander it because they aren't compatible with Western Civilization.

I'm not trying to say their inferior but they come from a different culture. A culture that is very religious, strict and a bit close minded. That's quite the contrary to a country like Sweden where it's the complete opposite on the spectrum where gay rights, transgender, equality, feminism, lgbtq, etc, is taught from a young age. Think about it in many Arab countries women don't have any rights and then they go to countries where men can suddenly become women and get treated like a hero? Taught things in school that goes against their own personal religious beliefs? It causes alienation and it actually gets worst with the descendants of the immigrants.

That's why I'm saying these immigrants either need to somewhat conform to the local culture or leave.

I agree with most of what you say and I agree that Europeans have to revisit their immigration strategy. But the subject at hand is terrorism and I was only addressing that specific issue. I don't have much sympathy for Arabs but I also cannot strictly blame them for what has befallen them. They struck oil and now they're paying the price with their blood.


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