Kosova National Team [General topic]

[Rodon]

Put the attention on my post and not on me.
I advice you to read and judge my posts without the filter of ideological glasses.

[vata10]

Not at all. It just shows how much of a difference 100 years of being forced to live separated, have made. It's just how it is. An Albo from Ks will rather hang with another Albo from say Ks than one from RA.

You are saying a different thing now.

Obviously at personal level everone will prefer who is nearer to him than someone else.

But here we are talking about the nation. The nation is Albania, not Kosovo. Kosovo is just an Albanian region, important of course like any other Albanian region, but still subordinated to Albania.
If somebody has the possibily to play for Albania or Kosovo and chooses the latter, than it means he values regionalism/tribalism more than Albanian nationalism (that is typical of inferior countries).

Kosova an Albanian region? It doesn't make any sense, Kosova is an Albanian country and nothing less. The sooner your kind will accept this the better .

[Albo_eagle]

This is what you get when you have politics interfere in sports. The political elites in both countries are against unification and for more distancing between Kosova and Albania. On the other hand you have idiots like 'Plisat' and others on this board almost considering the KS NT worse than Serbia. Or those calling Kosova 'just a region' of Albania. It's not just a region to me - it's equal to Albania. Pa Kosovë Shqipni nuk ka dhe anasjelltas and I feel irritated when someone calls it just a region which somehow is subordinated to anyone.

What does this mean? - This means, that those who are from Kosovë feel that others try to step on them and not recognize them as equals - but also push others to do shit in spite. If a group like 'Plisat' had been smart, they'd have supported the KS NT and they wouldn't have listened to those calling for banning Albanian flags on the stadium. They would have taken those flags and banners with them into the stadium and shown that we are one. Instead they can bitch now as they've left it at the hands of dirty Albanian politics.

Wooooow you could not be more wrong. You are exactlt like those politicians you mentioned, say one thing do another. If we say we want unification with Albania then we will support only Albania to show that Albanians from Kosovë represent Albania. We will not say we want unification and then go and support a seperate team 'Kosovë' which further divides Albanians from one region with those from another, i cannot believe your logic. So what if the Plisat went with the Albanian flag, so what? The Albanian national anthem is not there, the country is represented by the lara lara flag and they play in blue and yellow. Ohhh yeah also Albania and Koaova play at the same time, so that would mean the Plisat do not go to Albania games so we completely remove ourselves. It may just be me but i feel very proud when 500 Plisat go from Prishtinë to support Albania and show it is our country, this is what shows we are unified. We say one thing and follow through with our actions, just like Vetëvendosja and any other good organization in our country.

[Leandro]

Wooooow you could not be more wrong. You are exactlt like those politicians you mentioned, say one thing do another. If we say we want unification with Albania then we will support only Albania to show that Albanians from Kosovë represent Albania. We will not say we want unification and then go and support a seperate team 'Kosovë' which further divides Albanians from one region with those from another, i cannot believe your logic. So what if the Plisat went with the Albanian flag, so what? The Albanian national anthem is not there, the country is represented by the lara lara flag and they play in blue and yellow. Ohhh yeah also Albania and Koaova play at the same time, so that would mean the Plisat do not go to Albania games so we completely remove ourselves. It may just be me but i feel very proud when 500 Plisat go from Prishtinë to support Albania and show it is our country, this is what shows we are unified. We say one thing and follow through with our actions, just like Vetëvendosja and any other good organization in our country.

You cant do anything about these traitors but expose them. Their vision of Kosova is a broken, fundamentalist, turkish protectorate. Like Bosnia, like Macedonia. Next in line is Kosova. A defunct failed state that is there only to further the araboturkish agenda.

[Migjeni]

You talk about VV all the time, but you have no fucking grasp about what they are, who they follow and who laid the bricks on the road they want to walk on. Have you ever heard of Ukshin Hoti? - Probably not, but I'll let you refute me before I tell you more about him. You cannot unite before you're strong enough. And we're not.

If Plisat went with the Albanian flag and sang the Albanian anthem that would be a strong sign to send to anyone doubting Kosova as an Albanian nation. Albanians went to games in the Yugoslav days and sang 'E-HO, E-HO' instead of olé, olé to send a sign, that we were Albanians and 'E-HO' was Enver Hoxha. But you probably don't know these things.

Plisat can't travel outside of Kosova because there's no visa liberalisation for Kosova, so what does it matter when Albania is playing in Liechtenstein? - You can't even use those arguments, lol.

[Albo_eagle]

Ohhh my days look at what i argue with. I know all about Ukshin Hoti and admire him greatly. I agree with Vetëvendosja greatly as they match both my nationalistic and left wing ideas. In regards to VV, just this summer i was at two of their mbledhje in Prishtinë, at a protest of the shoqëri civile in Prishtinë as one of their members, in Tiranë at a protest as one of their members and again in Prishtinë as one of their members. Please tell me what you did to help them this summer?

You and everyone else like you are just as bad as the 'kosovar' scum. Like i said, you will talk about bashkim kombëtar just like some piece of shit like xhavit haliti but your actions will be the crucial difference. 'We are not strong enough' you people have used that excuse for so long, i hear it non stop in Kosovë. It seems we will never be strong enough. Does this route we are heading down with pdk and ldk look like it is making us strong enough? You people are so delusional, there is no perfect moment, you just do it. Did East Germany wait until it was 'strong enough' to join Germany? No they had a disaster of an economy and still united. Did Germany wait until Austria was strong enough for anchluss? No they just did it.

Man if we waited for people like you to be ready we would never have it happen, thankfully the people in VV do not have similar thinking to you, they are progressive, radical and foward thinking, all traits you lack.

[Albo_eagle]

As for the Plisat, we were in France for the euros so the visas aren't an issue. We may not be able to turn up with as many people as before but we will turn up. We are Kosova's biggest tifo group and we boycott their 'national team' and support Albania, that's making a statement.

[Migjeni]

If you know all about Ukshin Hoti tell me what he says about bashkimi kombetar? - I'll be waiting for your answer. Tell me what VV says about bashkimi kombetar? - I'll be waiting for your answer.

I was in the zyre all summer, but I don't seem to know you. Funny - as I know most of the people there - but I'm not here to a dick measuring contest - I'm here to tell you that you're talking shit and just name dropping VV all the time without even knowing wtf they stand for. You're worse than Xhavit Haliti - because at least we know who he is, while idiots like you potentially ruin our cause in Kosovë.

West Germany was strong as f***. Albania is just as weak as Kosova. What a fucking laughable example, anschluss? Really? That's how desperate you are to make your point that you have to mention the Nazi annexation of Austria? Lol.

If we listened to people like you, who claim to know what they talk about we would be just about... where we are.

[Albo_eagle]

You have nothing in common with Vetëvendosja, you share the ideas of pdk scum. One of your pdk guys was recently talking about bashkim kombëtar, that is probably more suited to your ideas.

Please tell me which zyre? I am really intrigued to hear what your response is going to be.

[Migjeni]

So you can't give me an answer about what VV and Ukshin Hoti say about bashkimin? That's what I thought. Only a name dropping internet warrior.

Zyra e VV-se n'rrugen UCK