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Re: UEFA Nations League 2022-2023
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:09 pm
by Dallku
The point is to not just play it a top league but to cope in it.
There have been many Albanians who played but couldn't cope at all. (Kapllani, Ndoj, Sadiku, etc).
Players like Abrashi, Meha, Memushaj, held their own the times they played there. That shows that they are decent players.
Re: UEFA Nations League 2022-2023
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:54 pm
by CanaYouDoIt
Dallku wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:09 pm
The point is to not just play it a top league but to cope in it.
There have been many Albanians who played but couldn't cope at all. (Kapllani, Ndoj, Sadiku, etc).
Players like Abrashi, Meha, Memushaj, held their own the times they played there. That shows that they are decent players.
I think that goes without saying, I'm talking about guys like Djim, Hysaj, Kumbulla, Bare and Broja now. Guys who are established in these leagues.
Re: UEFA Nations League 2022-2023
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:07 pm
by Princ
Dallku wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:31 am
Nonsense.
The best Hungarian league player (Uzuni) signed for a bottom La Liga team and he's struggling to say the least.
It's a different universe of professionalism and expectations. The bottom ones might not be top players but by Albanian standards they are top players. That's the point. Unless you guys can mention better alternatives to Bare or Hysaj these discussions are pointless.
I can easily flip it around..
In his prime (from 2016 to 2018), Enis Bardhi scored at the same rate in Hungarian league as he did in La Liga.
2016-17 Hungarian League.. 2111 minutes, 12 goals, goal every ~176 minutes
2017-18 La Liga.. 1578 minutes, 9 goals, goal every ~175 minutes
League made no difference, as Bardhi was equally effective wherever he went.
Re: UEFA Nations League 2022-2023
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:14 pm
by CanaYouDoIt
What the f*** are you on about ?
Re: UEFA Nations League 2022-2023
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:23 pm
by Princ
Iran is ranked in top 25 and would be favored to run through Albania anywhere in the world.
Starting CM? Teammate of Ramadani from Vejle BK, Saeed Ezatolahi Afagh, and Ahmad Nourollahi from the Arabian Gulf League.
Re: UEFA Nations League 2022-2023
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:36 pm
by Dallku
Princ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:07 pm
I can easily flip it around..
In his prime (from 2016 to 2018), Enis Bardhi scored at the same rate in Hungarian league as he did in La Liga.
2016-17 Hungarian League.. 2111 minutes, 12 goals, goal every ~176 minutes
2017-18 La Liga.. 1578 minutes, 9 goals, goal every ~175 minutes
League made no difference, as Bardhi was equally effective wherever he went.
Bardhi was 20 years old in 2016. NOT in his prime. That's a u21 player in the process of learning the professional game. The opposite of someone in his prime.
Princ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:23 pm
Iran is ranked in top 25 and would be favored to run through Albania anywhere in the world.
Starting CM? Teammate of Ramadani from Vejle BK, Saeed Ezatolahi Afagh, and Ahmad Nourollahi from the Arabian Gulf League.
Yeah because the Asian continent Iran plays is just as strong as UEFA.
Another bad faith argument..
Re: UEFA Nations League 2022-2023
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:44 pm
by Princ
Prime is defined as the period where a player was most effective. For Enis Bardhi, it was from 2016 to 2018, between age 21 and 23.
Iran would be favored to run through superstars of Albania regardless of where they play!
Re: UEFA Nations League 2022-2023
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:03 pm
by CanaYouDoIt
Princ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:44 pm
Prime is defined as the period where a player was most effective. For Enis Bardhi, it was from 2016 to 2018, between age 21 and 23.
Iran would be favored to run through superstars of Albania regardless of where they play!
He may have scored more goals, but that on its own doesn't make a player. I think he's much more rounded and smart now.
Re: UEFA Nations League 2022-2023
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:05 pm
by CanaYouDoIt
Oh and Iran are 100% not a better team than us, beating war zones like Syria or crap like India to boost their ranking means f*** all to me.
Re: UEFA Nations League 2022-2023
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:13 pm
by Princ
CanaYouDoIt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:05 pm
Oh and Iran are 100% not a better team than us, beating war zones like Syria or crap like India to boost their ranking means f*** all to me.
Last time Iran visited Tirana, Bet365 suggested a visitor win ~51% of time (draw ~28%, home ~21%).
In the most recent trip to Europe, they beat Bosnia 0-2 in Sarajevo. Unfortunately, the “better” team is not defined as the one with most top leaguers.