Albania vs. Poland - World Cup Qualifiers Europe - October 12, 2021

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Speaking of Lithuania and the Nations League turns out if we had beaten them back then we would have had a playoff spot automatically through Nations League as the best two group winners from every league get a WC playoffs berth(lol). We burned a golden chance to take a playoff spot with that easy as f*** Nations League group. :rrokullisem: :rrokullisem: :wallbang:
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artan wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:32 pm Laci? This dude had one good subsitute appearance against Hungary and he's ready to be a starter? He was pretty awful in the Nations League where he get dominated by Lithuania twice. As for Doka he's not even a starter for a mid table Croatian side.

The problem with the Laci's, Doka's, Cikaleshi, Trashi, Ramadani, etc, is they aren't consistent enough. They'll look okay one game and have a string of non-existent or bad performances and it's almost guaranteed against top competition they will shit the bed. They'll look whatever against a team like Hungary as they get exposed and will look really good against the San Marino's because these are amateur teams. We need professional players.

The core of this team is Gymcity, Bare, Kumbulla, Broja, Bajrami, Hysaj and potentially Strakosha and Ismajli. Everyone else is replaceable and just squad players. I hope some players like Muci, Mitaj or Asllani can add to the core by the time next qualifiers start. Balliu could have potentially be in this core but I don't expect him back.
Bare and Hysaj cost us big time in both matches against Poland! Even Ramadani proved to be the superior midfielder last night.

Lithuania beat us in Tirana from mistake of Hysaj, who failed to the clear the ball off goal line after a bad pass from Gjasula.
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CanaYouDoIt wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:17 pm
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Dallku wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:58 pmMental midgets.

Talent aside, they also don't have the mentality to cause upsets.

Many small teams play way above their level when they play superior teams at home, in front of hostile crowds. You see it in league play all the time where relegation teams upset the top teams pretty regularly.

For some odd reason, seems like home field advantage and hostile atmospheres have an opposite affect on Albania players. They actually shrink even below their level.
These guys wanna be the heroes so badly. It was so apparent yesterday when they weren't passing at all but barging ahead like idiots trying to dribble their way to Poland goal. That's on the coach.
Manaj on that 2 on 1 chance … youre not that guy pal
The one and only chance we had. Broja was doing the same in the latter stages of the game, trying to dribble through the whole Polish defense
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artan wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:32 pm
Princ wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:09 pm Time to admit that the super professional Hysaj is responsible for the loss last night. The visitors did not look like scoring, but were gifted a goal in front of 22k Albanians.

Bare was terrible, but he got lucky as his mistakes were not capitalized on by the Polaks. Weak players who already cost us the first time around at Poland!

Thankfully, we have discovered alternatives for these positions. Doka and Laci are much stronger men, who must be given more trust going forward!
Laci? This dude had one good subsitute appearance against Hungary and he's ready to be a starter? He was pretty awful in the Nations League where he get dominated by Lithuania twice. As for Doka he's not even a starter for a mid table Croatian side.

The problem with the Laci's, Doka's, Cikaleshi, Trashi, Ramadani, etc, is they aren't consistent enough. They'll look okay one game and have a string of non-existent or bad performances and it's almost guaranteed against top competition they will shit the bed. They'll look whatever against a team like Hungary as they get exposed and will look really good against the San Marino's because these are amateur teams. We need professional players.

The core of this team is Gymcity, Bare, Kumbulla, Broja, Bajrami, Hysaj and potentially Strakosha and Ismajli. Everyone else is replaceable and just squad players. I hope some players like Muci, Mitaj or Asllani can add to the core by the time next qualifiers start. Balliu could have potentially be in this core but I don't expect him back.
Our "professional" players like Hysaj and Bare were terrible last night though.
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RedFootballs wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:33 pm Speaking of Lithuania and the Nations League turns out if we had beaten them back then we would have had a playoff spot automatically through Nations League as the best two group winners from every league get a WC playoffs berth(lol). We burned a golden chance to take a playoff spot with that easy as f*** Nations League group. :rrokullisem: :rrokullisem: :wallbang:
Luckily that is completely untrue.
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MercedesBenz240 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:10 pm
RedFootballs wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:33 pm Speaking of Lithuania and the Nations League turns out if we had beaten them back then we would have had a playoff spot automatically through Nations League as the best two group winners from every league get a WC playoffs berth(lol). We burned a golden chance to take a playoff spot with that easy as f*** Nations League group. :rrokullisem: :rrokullisem: :wallbang:
Luckily that is completely untrue.
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Am I misunderstanding? If we did better we're not too far at all from those two spots there, otherwise what's the point, such a confusing and complex format just to give more spots to good teams?
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I don't blame you, it's quite confusing. But essentially, only the 2 best ranked teams qualify to the play-offs via the Nations League in total, not 2 from every league. So in this case it will be Austria and Wales/Czech Republic. Even if we had won all our Nations League matches we still wouldn't stand a chance.
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MercedesBenz240 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:25 pm I don't blame you, it's quite confusing. But essentially, only the 2 best ranked teams qualify to the play-offs via the Nations League in total, not 2 from every league. So in this case it will be Austria and Wales/Czech Republic. Even if we had won all our Nations League matches we still wouldn't stand a chance.
We dropped many points, only 11 from a possible 18 (Against that opposition we really should be going 6 for 6, we would now). Is there any modifier or criteria where you can see how much pts are worth?
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RedFootballs wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:26 pm
MercedesBenz240 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:25 pm I don't blame you, it's quite confusing. But essentially, only the 2 best ranked teams qualify to the play-offs via the Nations League in total, not 2 from every league. So in this case it will be Austria and Wales/Czech Republic. Even if we had won all our Nations League matches we still wouldn't stand a chance.
We dropped many points, only 11 from a possible 18 (Against that opposition we really should be going 6 for 6, we would now). Is there any modifier or criteria where you can see how much pts are worth?
It doesn't matter because we were on League C. If you look at the image you can see that the teams are separated by leagues. Teams from League C can't get ranked higher than teams from League B despite their results. The highest position we could get was 33rd, where Slovenia was ranked.
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