Albanians abroad

With memories of the golden years (80's) of the albanian football still fresh on her mind, Albania is now attempting to recreate its strong football legacy. As young players start making their names abroad, the future is looking bright for Albanian football!

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Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:38 pm

Plenty of European internationals play in MLS..

Xherdan Shaqiri, Karol Swiderski, Daniel Salloi are a few that come to mind.
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Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:53 pm

Princ wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:38 pm Plenty of European internationals play in MLS..

Xherdan Shaqiri, Karol Swiderski, Daniel Salloi are a few that come to mind.
Swiderski and Buksa were showing levels to our back line in the qualifiers. Funny that both play in MLS.
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Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:02 pm

I still find it funny that I wrote off Vrioni within 5 minutes of watching him at Juve. I came in all hyped that a youth player was debuting for Juventus and a few minutes later was wondering how this guy was a professional player since he couldn't complete a single pass 😂 😂 .
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Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:27 pm

artan wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:25 pm I don’t think there’s much of a difference between Turkey and the MLS.

The thing about MLS is that scouting has increased and they’ve been exporting more players over the years. If Vrioni excels he will get offers in Europe in a few years. But he’ll have to excel.
He's already at Juve and barely got any offers. MLS might just be his peak and for that kind of money you can't complain. I don't think Hysaj pulled that kind of money in his heyday at Napoli.
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Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:29 pm

Dallku wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:47 pm Small countries that are good at producing players don't have good leagues because their talents don't stay in their domestic league. They get snatched up early in their careers. Uruguay is another example like Croatia.

Ideally that's what Albania should be. An export nation. League should practically be a youth league more than anything. Selling players is the only realistic way Albanian clubs can make money too but they don't get it. Skenderbeu was the only one that sort of got it before they got banned.
Croatia and Uruguay both have strong domestic leagues.

Players cannot be exported for millions of dollars without having proven themselves in a competitive environment. Albanian Superliga is ranked among worst in Europe, so our home grown talents have hard time making jump to bigger leagues.

Ideally, all the best Albanian players would be paid to stay and play in the Superliga, thus improving the quality of the league. Moving abroad is a shameful thing, and really hurts us as a small nation.
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Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:32 pm

Dallku wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:29 pmYou're on copium if you think that this MLS is offering him some high wages that any European team couldn't at least match. He's getting Jahmir Hyka MLS wages not Lorenzo insigne ones.

His decision makes no sense because it also sacrifices his NT career. Besides the long distance the MLS season starts/finishes at completely different times than European leagues so he'll be on vacation and out of form for November NT games(for example).

So it makes no logical sense other than no European team wanted him.
The guy he's replacing as DP was getting $1M/year so you're right, he's likely getting Hyka money. Revs coach Bruce Arena has an eye for talent so I like the move.
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Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:21 pm

Plako wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:27 pm
artan wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:25 pm I don’t think there’s much of a difference between Turkey and the MLS.

The thing about MLS is that scouting has increased and they’ve been exporting more players over the years. If Vrioni excels he will get offers in Europe in a few years. But he’ll have to excel.
He's already at Juve and barely got any offers. MLS might just be his peak and for that kind of money you can't complain. I don't think Hysaj pulled that kind of money in his heyday at Napoli.
To be fair we don’t know what offers he had it may be likely that new England gave Juve and Vrioni the highest offer. A small club in a bigger league isn’t going to spend $4 million for an unproven like Vrioni and won’t give the wage he wants. They would probably do something like a Manaj deal with a loan to option to buy.

Thinking about it now it’s not a bad move. The MLS has slowly been moving from the model of over paying for older stars to making big offers for younger players (specifically from Argentina, Uruguay and other parts of Europe). If Vrioni is the player we think he is he atleast got a decent paycheck before being an amateur player, if he excels he will find himself in a bigger league. Someone like Manaj should call it a day and join the MLS too.
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Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:17 pm

artan wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:21 pmThinking about it now it’s not a bad move. The MLS has slowly been moving from the model of over paying for older stars to making big offers for younger players (specifically from Argentina, Uruguay and other parts of Europe). If Vrioni is the player we think he is he atleast got a decent paycheck before being an amateur player, if he excels he will find himself in a bigger league. Someone like Manaj should call it a day and join the MLS too.
Not so sure about that, They just signed Chiellini and Bale and gave Shaq a $7M.year contract.
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Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:41 pm

This is a very American transfer too lol. Americans are obsessed with stats and that's in all sports. A soccer GM probably so his stats and cheap price so he thought great value. That's why they got Salihi too.
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Sat Jul 02, 2022 10:34 pm

Hamdi Vrioni
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