Nations League : Israel vs Albania, 20:45 CET

[CanaYouDoIt]

As bad as Asllani played against Israel (which he even admitted).

Albania with Asllani on the pitch: 1-0

Albania with Asllani benched early in the 2nd half for Ramadani: 1-2 Israel.

Asllani can play, it should be Bajrami that loses his spot for this game. Guy has been a ghost in every game he's played with us so far and not playing with Empoli much rn. There is no doubt he's talented and has a lot to give but he isn't an undroppable player.

Yes Ramadani plays at a low level but when is it going to start being about merit rather than who started for a Serie A team for one season? Ramadani was good against Poland in a crucial game where Albanians usually shit themselves and has played 90 every game for his new team, with some commentators there saying he's one of the best midfielders in the league.

Give him a run out, he deserves it.

He's been playing Bajrami CM lmao. Playing him out of position, with shit tactics that minimizes his potential touches. Dont be stupid, we know why we are not seeing the best of anyone really.

As for Asllani vs Ramadani, theres a reason why after just 1 season the best teams in Italy wanted one and after a whole career the best Ramadani can do is an average scottish team.

[Princ]

Yes Ramadani plays at a low level but when is it going to start being about merit rather than who started for a Serie A team for one season? Ramadani was good against Poland in a crucial game where Albanians usually shit themselves and has played 90 every game for his new team, with some commentators there saying he's one of the best midfielders in the league.

Give him a run out, he deserves it.

Funny thing is that Suga started for a Serie A team too last season, yet you will not hear them demand he be guaranteed a starting spot.

Their argument centres around “I like this player, so he should start regardless of form at club level, and who cares about everyone else.”

Bunch of fanboys..

[Dallku]

Funny thing is that Suga started for a Serie A team too last season, yet you will not hear them demand he be guaranteed a starting spot.

Their argument centres around “I like this player, so he should start regardless of form at club level, and who cares about everyone else.”

Bunch of fanboys..

Fluking their way into a top league for a season doesn't mean they are good. There have been plenty Alb players who played in top leagues but were obviously never good enough to stay there and establish themselves. That's what separates themselves from true professionals.

so Suga is on the same level as: Emanuele Ndoj, Edmond Kapllani, Andi Lila, Kastriot Dermaku, Jahmir Hyka, Bekim Kastrati, Mehmet Dragusha, Frederick Veseli and last but not least, Xhulian Rrudho.

vs

Asllani, Kumbulla, Bogdani, Skela, Lala, Tare, Hysaj, Mavraj etc.. <------ Players who could cope in top leagues and establish themselves.

[RedFootballs]

Funny thing is that Suga started for a Serie A team too last season, yet you will not hear them demand he be guaranteed a starting spot.

Their argument centres around “I like this player, so he should start regardless of form at club level, and who cares about everyone else.”

Bunch of fanboys..

Fluking their way into a top league for a season doesn't mean they are good. There have been plenty Alb players who played in top leagues but were obviously never good enough to stay there and establish themselves. That's what separates themselves from true professionals.

so Suga is on the same level as: Emanuele Ndoj, Edmond Kapllani, Andi Lila, Kastriot Dermaku, Jahmir Hyka, Bekim Kastrati, Mehmet Dragusha, Frederick Veseli and last but not least, Xhulian Rrudho.

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Asllani, Kumbulla, Bogdani, Skela, Lala, Tare, Hysaj, Mavraj etc.. <------ Players who could cope in top leagues and establish themselves.

Yea, it is the same thing playing nearly 2000 minutes (Manaj) and 3000 (Veseli) in a season in Serie A vs a guy who made one 11 minute appearance. A strange and dishonest parallel to make.

I don't know some of those guys but from what I can see Veseli is the only guy there that actually started for a full season in a top league, along with Kapllani being rotation in Germany. You've named a bunch of guys who played a couple hundred minutes or even just 11 lone minutes. False equivalence.

Anyhow, starting for a full season in a top league shouldn't punch you a ticket to start with the NT either, but it has seemed to be the criteria on this forum for an unchallenged starting spot. You would call the likes of Bare established because he was rotation for one season with a relegation team and use it as evidence why he should start, but Veseli and Manaj are on the level of a guy who played 11 minutes in Serie A because you don't rate them as good players.

[RedFootballs]

As bad as Asllani played against Israel (which he even admitted).

Albania with Asllani on the pitch: 1-0

Albania with Asllani benched early in the 2nd half for Ramadani: 1-2 Israel.

Asllani can play, it should be Bajrami that loses his spot for this game. Guy has been a ghost in every game he's played with us so far and not playing with Empoli much rn. There is no doubt he's talented and has a lot to give but he isn't an undroppable player.

Yes Ramadani plays at a low level but when is it going to start being about merit rather than who started for a Serie A team for one season? Ramadani was good against Poland in a crucial game where Albanians usually shit themselves and has played 90 every game for his new team, with some commentators there saying he's one of the best midfielders in the league.

Give him a run out, he deserves it.

He's been playing Bajrami CM lmao. Playing him out of position, with shit tactics that minimizes his potential touches. Dont be stupid, we know why we are not seeing the best of anyone really.

As for Asllani vs Ramadani, theres a reason why after just 1 season the best teams in Italy wanted one and after a whole career the best Ramadani can do is an average scottish team.

I agree, Asllani will have a far better career than either of them. There's a reason he went to Inter at 20 for 15 million and Bajrami hasn't moved yet (and can't actually hold down a spot at Empoli, for now). If Bajrami was on the level of Asllani he would have bigger teams in for him, but none were. And of course Ramadani is playing for Aberdeen at 26.

With that said about Asllani, Bajrami and Ramadani is a different case and for me, being benched for a relegation Serie A team isn't much different from being an undisputed starter at Aberdeen and playing 90 every game. That is where I think merit and form should come into it, Bajrami hasn't proven he has the credentials to be undroppable even if in bad form, he has to earn that with good performances.

[Dallku]

Yea, it is the same thing playing nearly 2000 minutes (Manaj) and 3000 (Veseli) in a season in Serie A vs a guy who made one 11 minute appearance. A strange and dishonest parallel to make.

I don't know some of those guys but from what I can see Veseli is the only guy there that actually started for a full season in a top league, along with Kapllani being rotation in Germany. You've named a bunch of guys who played a couple hundred minutes or even just 11 lone minutes. False equivalence.

Anyhow, starting for a full season in a top league shouldn't punch you a ticket to start with the NT either, but it has seemed to be the criteria on this forum for an unchallenged starting spot. You would call the likes of Bare established because he was rotation for one season with a relegation team and use it as evidence why he should start, but Veseli and Manaj are on the level of a guy who played 11 minutes in Serie A because you don't rate them as good players.

Asllani established himself at Empoli not at Inter(yet). Inter was a reward for his high level performances at Empoli.

What did those 2000 and 3000 minutes do for Manaj and Veseli? Unlike Asllani, they were punished for their performances by being rejected of a resign and eventually ending up in a lower division. It only proves my point lol. Those players are not good enough to stay at that level consistently.

Keidi established himself after positive performances last season and that's why he was rewarded(like Asllani and contrary to Rey). They not only kept him but they even gave him a new #8 shirt. Just because he currently has injury problems doesn't change that fact.

[Aurora Bulkualis]

Asllani started the season at Empoli primavera and ended it by being bought by Inter. Comparing him to Ramadani in any way shape or form is ludicrous.

[Princ]

Asllani, Kumbulla, Bogdani, Skela, Lala, Tare, Hysaj, Mavraj etc.. <------ Players who could cope in top leagues and establish themselves.

Albania broke top 25 with guys who played in Switzerland, Greece and Croatia..

None of 3 best midfielders ever (Xhaka, Abrashi, Kukeli) were “established top leaguers” during our strongest period 2014-16. Two of them never even played in a top league at all.

Players do not turn from amateur to professional overnight depending on what jersey they have on. If Asllani was raised in Kosovo like Ramadani, he’d be playing for KF Malisheva right now.

[CanaYouDoIt]

Asllani, Kumbulla, Bogdani, Skela, Lala, Tare, Hysaj, Mavraj etc.. <------ Players who could cope in top leagues and establish themselves.

Albania broke top 25 with guys who played in Switzerland, Greece and Croatia..

None of 3 best midfielders ever (Xhaka, Abrashi, Kukeli) were “established top leaguers” during our strongest period 2014-16. Two of them never even played in a top league at all.

Players do not turn from amateur to professional overnight depending on what jersey they have on. If Asllani was raised in Kosovo like Ramadani, he’d be playing for KF Malisheva right now.

Xhaka played for a Basel team playing in the CL every year even beating teams like United every so often. Abrashi played in the Bundesliga and probably still would be if not for injuries and Kukeli again played for one of the best swiss teams. Compare that to guys like Ramadani who hasnt even played in a league close to that level until this year and the equivalent would have been if he went to Rangers or Celtic.

You're taking the piss, shut the f*** up with this nonsense.

[CanaYouDoIt]

Shame Reja is only using this formation now at the end of his tenure, how different things could have been. Don't be surprised if we look for once decent in attack. Its going to get the best out of Bajrami and Hysaj.