Albanian Football Forum

Jari wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:51 pm

CanaYouDoIt wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:46 pm

Jari wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:43 pm


Manila’s played for years at Roma and Napoli, Sokratis as well for Dortmund and Arsenal. Vlachodimos is the starting goalkeeper of Benfica for quite a long time.

What I and you can’t actually name is three Albanian talents playing straight from the Albanian league to a top European league.

So thats 34 year old Sokratis and 31 year old Manolas who's now left Europe. Not exactly a wealth of exciting talent is it?

Lol you asked me to name 3 talents of the Greek league who have made id into European top leagues the last 5-10 years and I just did. What does even matter if these guys are 34 and 31 years old respectively?

They have also guys playing in Italian and German leagues. Albanian Nt wouldn’t be much better if they didn’t have help from Western European countries to develop their talents.

Brother I'm talking about the new generation. Tsimikas's age group. We have better talent than them, this Ndoj guy is an idiot, and thats the main point here, he's a traitor.

Jari wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:53 pm

CanaYouDoIt wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:50 pm

Jari wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:48 pm


They have been playing in European competitions since forever.

Just impinge that the best campaign any Albanian club had ever had, barely had any difference with Olympiacos campaign this year which you are laughing off. Quite depressing if you ask me.

The question is why are you bending over for Olympiacos? No one here is arguing Albanian football is in a good state.

I’m not bending over them, just mentioning that Ndoj is having a golden opportunity for his career which was the starting point of this discussion.

Golden opportunity is overdoing it, even that hotshot from Paok failed at Norwich, Greek talents just dont make it.

The fact that Greece have George Baldock playing for them is all you need to know. They're desperate for talent.

Anyway thats too much energy for a 20 year old with 10 senior appearances, f*** him and f*** Greece. We'll see where he is in the next 2-3 years, I'll eat my own shit if he's playing for a good team.

CanaYouDoIt wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:56 pm

Jari wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:53 pm

CanaYouDoIt wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:50 pm

The question is why are you bending over for Olympiacos? No one here is arguing Albanian football is in a good state.

I’m not bending over them, just mentioning that Ndoj is having a golden opportunity for his career which was the starting point of this discussion.

Golden opportunity is overdoing it, even that hotshot from Paok failed at Norwich, Greek talents just dont make it.

Olympiacos barely sell any player they value for less than 15 million.

Doubt he’d get the chance to even be scouted in Albania.

CanaYouDoIt wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:58 pm The fact that Greece have George Baldock playing for them is all you need to know. They're desperate for talent.

Anyway thats too much energy for a 20 year old with 10 senior appearances, f*** him and f*** Greece. We'll see where he is in the next 2-3 years, I'll eat my own shit if he's playing for a good team.

Yeah we can agree on that but you always seem to change the topic. Anyway I’ll get this silence as a proof you got nothing to argue since I’m speaking the truth on every occasion.

Jari wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:19 pm What’s more sad in this story is that Albania rely on other countries to develop their talents.

You can argue they are worse than Albania but they actually develop their talents unlike the Albanian squad who have been recently acquiring talent from Switzerland, Italy, England, Germany and Greece.

A good step to stop ‘losing’ players like him is to develop players like him at first. Albania can’t do that consistently.

Times have changed. More than 40% of Albanians live abroad so it's natural that we would call up foreign born talents who have still strong ties to the country. Even the likes of Italy are calling up South Americans who have Italian ancestry.

Plako wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:45 am

Jari wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:19 pm What’s more sad in this story is that Albania rely on other countries to develop their talents.

You can argue they are worse than Albania but they actually develop their talents unlike the Albanian squad who have been recently acquiring talent from Switzerland, Italy, England, Germany and Greece.

A good step to stop ‘losing’ players like him is to develop players like him at first. Albania can’t do that consistently.

Times have changed. More than 40% of Albanians live abroad so it's natural that we would call up foreign born talents who have still strong ties to the country. Even the likes of Italy are calling up South Americans who have Italian ancestry.

It's all fine searching for talent abroad but it's also true that Albania's source of talent is other countries' academies. That CYD guy seems like a huge hot head trying to convince people here that other Balkan leagues don't crack it while the best export of Albanian league has been Peter fcking Olayinka to Gent for 1M $. This is actually getting more and more ridiculous

CanaYouDoIt wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:55 pm

Jari wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:51 pm

CanaYouDoIt wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:46 pm

So thats 34 year old Sokratis and 31 year old Manolas who's now left Europe. Not exactly a wealth of exciting talent is it?

Lol you asked me to name 3 talents of the Greek league who have made id into European top leagues the last 5-10 years and I just did. What does even matter if these guys are 34 and 31 years old respectively?

They have also guys playing in Italian and German leagues. Albanian Nt wouldn’t be much better if they didn’t have help from Western European countries to develop their talents.

Brother I'm talking about the new generation. Tsimikas's age group. We have better talent than them, this Ndoj guy is an idiot, and thats the main point here, he's a traitor.

No we don't have better talent than anyone in Europe, perhaps Switzerland or Germany or Italy have, and we do beg them to ship them back to Albania in order to be competitive in high level.

The average footballer that comes through Albanian football system has the Polish and the Hungarian league as his best ceiling. But it's all good since there are other countries able to produce talent to represent Albania because can't make it ourselves.

Plako wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:45 am Times have changed. More than 40% of Albanians live abroad so it's natural that we would call up foreign born talents who have still strong ties to the country. Even the likes of Italy are calling up South Americans who have Italian ancestry.

By that logic, it is all fine and dandy that Greece stole Albanian weightlifting product Pirro Dhima, who went on to become arguably the greatest weightlifter ever.

Dhima is, to this day, the most criticized athlete by Albanians. We do not like it when others steal from us, so why should we steal from them?

Jari wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:09 pm do you think he’d ever reach professional level if raised and trained in Albania ? Not even close if you ask me.

Man, what are you talking about? Rrahmani went through Superliga, so did Uzuni, Roshi, etc... Plenty of people have gone through Albania that played in top leagues.

Whether they stay there or not, is another issue. This guy has played like 4 pro games.