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Albo_eagle wrote:
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Albo_eagle wrote:Rama said said very foolish things today regarding the Balli Kombëtar. Yes PS are the best option between the two big parties but they are a joke when it comes to having any patriotism.
Bear in mind Albanians in RA have a very different opinion of Balli from Albanians outside RA especially those from former Yugoslavia.

Check this footage of Albanians in full "patriotic" national costumes pledging allegiance to Italy and its king. Ballistat were not any better, they were collaborationists and nothing's gonna change that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8MeyIx4E8Oc


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Well them there opinion is wrong and they should pick up a book and read it.
I am not suprised they have this opinion as 40 years of communist rule (anti Ballist) would obviously have a huge impact.

Shkurt e shqip, Balli Kombëtar është pasuri kombëtare. The Balli Kombëtar gave us the three greatest years in our recent history. The older people in Kosovë say that. Lidhja e Prizrenit, Balli Kombëtar and UÇK shared a similar ideology as they were all born from the same ideas. All three are movements we should all be proud of.

Which book do you suggest we read?


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Albo_eagle wrote:
Plako wrote:
Albo_eagle wrote:Rama said said very foolish things today regarding the Balli Kombëtar. Yes PS are the best option between the two big parties but they are a joke when it comes to having any patriotism.
Bear in mind Albanians in RA have a very different opinion of Balli from Albanians outside RA especially those from former Yugoslavia.

Check this footage of Albanians in full "patriotic" national costumes pledging allegiance to Italy and its king. Ballistat were not any better, they were collaborationists and nothing's gonna change that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8MeyIx4E8Oc


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Well them there opinion is wrong and they should pick up a book and read it.
I am not suprised they have this opinion as 40 years of communist rule (anti Ballist) would obviously have a huge impact.

Shkurt e shqip, Balli Kombëtar është pasuri kombëtare. The Balli Kombëtar gave us the three greatest years in our recent history. The older people in Kosovë say that. Lidhja e Prizrenit, Balli Kombëtar and UÇK shared a similar ideology as they were all born from the same ideas. All three are movements we should all be proud of.

Which book do you suggest we read?


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Balli Kombetar committed torture of other Albanians and collaborated with invaders. Enough with this romanticism of century old defunct militias.
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If you are being sincere in your questioning i suggest you read either 'Kosovo: A short Story' by Neil Malcom or 'The Albanians' by Edwin Jaques.

Those are two books I have read and would recommend. A book i am planning on reading as soon as i can find a copy which you may find of some interest is 'Albania at War 1939-1945' by Bernd Fischer.
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Aurora Bulkualis wrote:Balli Kombetar committed torture of other Albanians and collaborated with invaders. Enough with this romanticism of century old defunct militias.
Lavdi dëshmorët e Ballit Kombëtar qe krenar na kan bërë.
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Albo_eagle wrote:
Aurora Bulkualis wrote:Balli Kombetar committed torture of other Albanians and collaborated with invaders. Enough with this romanticism of century old defunct militias.
Lavdi dëshmorët e Ballit Kombëtar qe krenar na kan bërë.
A ka ndonje betej te Ballit kunder pushtuesve?
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Albo_eagle wrote:If you are being sincere in your questioning i suggest you read either 'Kosovo: A short Story' by Neil Malcom or 'The Albanians' by Edwin Jaques.

Those are two books I have read and would recommend. A book i am planning on reading as soon as i can find a copy which you may find of some interest is 'Albania at War 1939-1945' by Bernd Fischer.

I was being serious and thanks.


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Balli kombetare and partizanet were idiots. They fought one another on the orders of foreigners. Idiots, I tell ya'.

Ja nje shembull se cka ka thane krijuesi i Ballit Kombetare Mit'hat Frashëri Bedri Pejanit:

"Kosova nuk mund ta ndihmojë Shqipërinë. Shqipëria mund ta ndihmojë Kosovën. Për ta ndihmuar Kosovën, Shqipëria duhet të forcohet. E për t'u forcuar Shqipëria, ajo duhet të ketë marrëdhënie të mira me fqinjtë. Kjo do të thotë t'i kemi punët mirë me serbët dhe grekët. Po për t'i pasur punët mirë me serbët, kosovarët nuk duhet të rebelohen".
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Migjeni wrote:Balli kombetare and partizanet were idiots. They fought one another on the orders of foreigners. Idiots, I tell ya'.
As I said a few weeks ago, one was a proto-fascist movement, the other a proto-communist movement. If Balli had come on top after the end of WWII, Albania would have slowly turned into a fascist state like Yugoslavia in the 90s. It was a lose-lose situation. The country didn't have the maturity to establish a proper democracy (it still doesn't).
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Migjeni wrote:Balli kombetare and partizanet were idiots. They fought one another on the orders of foreigners. Idiots, I tell ya'.

Ja nje shembull se cka ka thane krijuesi i Ballit Kombetare Mit'hat Frashëri Bedri Pejanit:

"Kosova nuk mund ta ndihmojë Shqipërinë. Shqipëria mund ta ndihmojë Kosovën. Për ta ndihmuar Kosovën, Shqipëria duhet të forcohet. E për t'u forcuar Shqipëria, ajo duhet të ketë marrëdhënie të mira me fqinjtë. Kjo do të thotë t'i kemi punët mirë me serbët dhe grekët. Po për t'i pasur punët mirë me serbët, kosovarët nuk duhet të rebelohen".
Actually the communists were the ones to backstab the Balli Kombetare after both sides agreed to a peace agreement so they both drive out the Nazi's/Yugoslavs.

The Balli Kombetare were just naive to trust a bunch of communists who were yugoslav puppets.

Balli Kombetare were a very egalitarian movement that sought to give people rights, lands and attempt to remove inequality. Difference is Balli Kombetare had Albanian Nationalism at the core while the Communists where idolized Marxism/Leninism to the point where it became "god" in Albania. All traces of Albanian identity and culture gone and stripped with Marxism BS.

To think it would have been worst than the communist regime under Hoxha is laughable.
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