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Albini is an intellect of the highest order. A person who's ideology consistrs of both the left wing and nationalism. This is the same ideology i share and what drove me to Vetëvendosja. Albini knows everything about anything, because as said recently by Shpend Ahmeti he is always reading and expanding his knowledge. He is unbelievably smart, when he speaks smart people listen. He is the Albanian that Albania has needed. He is something special.

I do think Rama is smart and agree with him on many things. Where we find ourselves differing is his enormous love of europe and being european, and the bashkim kombëtar issue. Rama is for bashkim kombëtar, but in the eu, which is not a bashkim kombëtar so his vision is basically a smokescreen. However i feel out of the two big parties he is the best option. It is not as if the PD is overly patriotic anyway, and then add that to the fact they are the worse option for government.
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Lol so far we had prime ministers that shut up during replicas with neighbours. He is being so harsh on Greece .
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Plako wrote:
vata10 wrote: He's Albania's PM and it feels like he's doing the opposition with how much he attacks. I'm failing to see the difference between him and S. Berisha.
Now people will disagree with me here and that's fine but while Rama's and Berisha's styles may seem similar at first sight to an outsider they are like night and day. I can write an essay here on the difference between the two but I don't wanna do it for 2 reasons: 1) I don't wanna sound like a Rama shill 2) most Albanians from Kosova have an unconditional love for Berisha (it'd be like Balli vs. Commies debate all over again) and are not deeply involved in Albanian politics or know enough about the history of the last 25 years.



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Blaming Kosovars for Rama's shortcomings :talumsha:. You guys elected Berisha as a PM and kept him for 8 years in that position, even after all the shit he pulled during the 90s.

To elaborate my post you quoted, now that Rama's mandate as the PM is coming to an end, it feels like he's just copying a page of Berisha's book on nationalistic rhetorics and attacking at every direction. Rama is the superior politician out of the two, no doubt.

P.S. Berisha has done good things for Kosova too, after he made peace with the rule that he couldn't speak in the name of Kosova :rrokullisem:.
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vata10 wrote:
Plako wrote:
vata10 wrote: He's Albania's PM and it feels like he's doing the opposition with how much he attacks. I'm failing to see the difference between him and S. Berisha.
Now people will disagree with me here and that's fine but while Rama's and Berisha's styles may seem similar at first sight to an outsider they are like night and day. I can write an essay here on the difference between the two but I don't wanna do it for 2 reasons: 1) I don't wanna sound like a Rama shill 2) most Albanians from Kosova have an unconditional love for Berisha (it'd be like Balli vs. Commies debate all over again) and are not deeply involved in Albanian politics or know enough about the history of the last 25 years.



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Blaming Kosovars for Rama's shortcomings :talumsha:. You guys elected Berisha as a PM and kept him for 8 years in that position, even after all the shit he pulled during the 90s.

To elaborate my post you quoted, now that Rama's mandate as the PM is coming to an end, it feels like he's just copying a page of Berisha's book on nationalistic rhetorics and attacking at every direction. Rama is the superior politician out of the two, no doubt.

P.S. Berisha has done good things for Kosova too, after he made peace with the rule that he couldn't speak in the name of Kosova :rrokullisem:.
Berisha has only been elected twice in RA, once in 1992 and the second time in 2005 after 8 years of Nano's corrupt reign. The other time he outright stole the elections.

I did not blame Rama's shortcomings on Kosovars at all, but I have noticed a predisposition of Kosovars for a preference of Berisha. You are basically regurgitating what one of the analysts in Baton Haxhiu's panel were saying. Where is the evidence for this rhetoric? A couple of posts on FB? Also please post some nationalist rhetoric from Berisha cause as far as I can recall Berisha only showed his "nationalism" in the early 90's when he expelled Yanulatos and banned Omonia, on which he reversed course within a week.

Rama does not dabble in nationalism, he's from the school of Real Politik. He needs to do what needs to be done as RA's PM. Nothing more nothing less. I can guarantee you that what you consider Nationalist rhetoric does not register at all with the electorate in Albania and won't move the needle at all for him. Anybody who's from RA will back me up on this.


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Albo_eagle wrote:
vata10 wrote:
This proves nothing!
Imo, Vv militants are active the whole time while the Pdk & Ldk militants only when it's time for elections.
http://m.gazetaexpress.com/mobile/lajme ... ?archive=1

http://zeri.info/aktuale/114737/albin-k ... n-e-zerit/

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0149179476

Those are all done in the last 6 months. Evey poll has VV top, and the one that doesnt has PDK ahead by less than 1 per cent. It is over. With the zajednics and demarkacion they finally put the nail in their own coffin. Ldk shot themselves by going into the coalition, as usually one party takes power and when things go bad people switch to the other big party, but they were both in party and both failed so now people look for a new alternative.

If as rumors are saying we are about to have snap elections then i am very very confident that we will win Kosovë. Drastic changed will happen like never seen before: politicians will be jailed by the mass, negotiations will serbia will stop until they meet a some conditions, and a referendum will be held on unification with Albania. Përpara Vetëvendosje.
Don't kid yourself! The public sector is the biggest employer in Kosove. People will not risk their jobs just to vote for Vv. Vv maintaining the position as the 3rd biggest party, it's already a success.
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It proves nothing, true - but it's indicative. VV has surpassed LDK I'm 99% certain, and I don't believe that PDK is much more than 3-4% away from VV in the polls. But we'll see soon hopefully, although I don't think they'll want elections now.
Well Ramiz Kelmendi just switched to Ldk and he was one of Pdk's most voted in the last elections. Both Ldk and Pdk have their loyal voters and I just don't see Vv as a realistic threat to either one of Pdk or Ldk.

And Vv already lost a promising politician in Ilir Deda and wasn't he like one of the most voted in Vv?
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vata10 wrote:
Albo_eagle wrote:
vata10 wrote:
This proves nothing!
Imo, Vv militants are active the whole time while the Pdk & Ldk militants only when it's time for elections.
http://m.gazetaexpress.com/mobile/lajme ... ?archive=1

http://zeri.info/aktuale/114737/albin-k ... n-e-zerit/

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0149179476

Those are all done in the last 6 months. Evey poll has VV top, and the one that doesnt has PDK ahead by less than 1 per cent. It is over. With the zajednics and demarkacion they finally put the nail in their own coffin. Ldk shot themselves by going into the coalition, as usually one party takes power and when things go bad people switch to the other big party, but they were both in party and both failed so now people look for a new alternative.

If as rumors are saying we are about to have snap elections then i am very very confident that we will win Kosovë. Drastic changed will happen like never seen before: politicians will be jailed by the mass, negotiations will serbia will stop until they meet a some conditions, and a referendum will be held on unification with Albania. Përpara Vetëvendosje.
Don't kid yourself! The public sector is the biggest employer in Kosove. People will not risk their jobs just to vote for Vv. Vv maintaining the position as the 3rd biggest party, it's already a success.
Migjeni wrote:
It proves nothing, true - but it's indicative. VV has surpassed LDK I'm 99% certain, and I don't believe that PDK is much more than 3-4% away from VV in the polls. But we'll see soon hopefully, although I don't think they'll want elections now.
Well Ramiz Kelmendi just switched to Ldk and he was one of Pdk's most voted in the last elections. Both Ldk and Pdk have their loyal voters and I just don't see Vv as a realistic threat to either one of Pdk or Ldk.

And Vv already lost a promising politician in Ilir Deda and wasn't he like one of the most voted in Vv?
LOOOL i knew from the moment you said the word 'militants' that you were either a pdk or ldk 'loyal' person who cannot accept VV's rise. I am going to say ldk as they are the main one's who are refusing to acknowledge their party is here for no reason now as their support is completely gone. Shkurt e shqip jen parti kot.

As for 'don't kid yourself', you seem to be the one kiddimg yourself. I just gave you all the latest polls, if you were not to kid yourself you would of gave me some back and said you are wrong. Everything points to VV. You also said the public sector is the biggest employer, well my friend you sould know over 50% of people are unemployed in Kosovë.

Now i really do not need to convince you of the reality but if the big parties were not so scared of VV then why don't they just call snap elelctions to calm the public down? They are scared they will lose, each day it is worse for them.

Since i guess your a ldk person i want to tell you a little story. In the UK on the election year 2011 when the Lib Dems went into a coalition they had 57 seats and the next election had only 8. They lost 49. Ldk will follow the same fate. I promise you this. Every poll points to it and logic itself does as all they do is follow the command of pdk, so if any of their supporters agree they may aswell go to pdk and those who don't will come to the oposition.

Lastly, bringing up Ilir Deda really? No he is not a loss at all.
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vata10 wrote:Well Ramiz Kelmendi just switched to Ldk and he was one of Pdk's most voted in the last elections. Both Ldk and Pdk have their loyal voters and I just don't see Vv as a realistic threat to either one of Pdk or Ldk.

And Vv already lost a promising politician in Ilir Deda and wasn't he like one of the most voted in Vv?
As you're probably aware, Ramiz Kelmendi owns the Elkos Group. People who work there and their families are almost forced to vote for him. Also, he 'only' got 9686 votes. That isn't really something special. Which means that those votes have been transferred from PDK to LDK now, not really something which matters in the big scheme of things.

PDK has their loyal voters - because they're all situated in jobs in the state, which will mean that they'll lose their jobs if PDK has to leave office. But there's also a large group who vote for them because they actually believed these so-called UCK fighters who led this party because of nostalgia, but as we're seeing now they're stabbing each other in the back just to save their asses from these special courts. That has cost them a lot + the poverty and all the jobs promised during the last campaign.

LDK has lost many of their 'loyal' voters since they went in to the coalition with PDK, the problems with Vjosa Osmani, demarkacioni etc.

Ilir Deda is a conformist. He's not corrupt and he's smart, but his way of being a politician might be something for Kosova in 10 or 20 years. He's not going to change anything drastically. His way of doing politics belongs in a society where the law of the jungle isn't the most important law. Also he and his new party with Mimoza Kusari-Lila won't get a seat in parliament, I'm almost certain about that. The threshold to get into parliament requires 5% - they will - maaaybe - get 2-3% - but never 5%. That's going to hurt VV and might be essential for VV not coming first in the elections.

VV on the other hand has been very active and growing and I'm almost certain that almost all unsatisfied LDK and PDK voters will be voting VV this time around, while a small percentage will go to AAK-Nisma and maybe an even smaller percentage of those former LDK-voters will vote for AKR and Pacolli.
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Plako wrote: Berisha has only been elected twice in RA, once in 1992 and the second time in 2005 after 8 years of Nano's corrupt reign. The other time he outright stole the elections.
Even 2005 was shifty as hell. The guy had like 25% approval in Albania last time I checked. I'm actually shocked it's that high. The funniest part is Berisha is Rama's greatest ally. Rama is such a piece of shit, that anyone else but Berisha or his puppets could have beaten him.

I really hope Blushi steals a huge chunk of PS and undecided voters, and keeps parliament in a deadlock. Bojaxhi was a no name dude and got 8%. I think Blushi can get up to 20%. He should only vote PS until they decide to kick Rama out (he already hinted at this).
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Lol Police collaboration in Albania, seems like US movies with FBI and Local Police Departments :D
http://www.panorama.com.al/magazina-me- ... -aksionit/

They should send police forces from south to north and vice versa .

Poor people won't get the monthly salary it seems :
http://www.panorama.com.al/lista-dalin- ... e-rreshen/
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