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[Migjeni]

So it meant something or it meant nothing?

[vata10]

Berisha has only been elected twice in RA, once in 1992 and the second time in 2005 after 8 years of Nano's corrupt reign. The other time he outright stole the elections.

I did not blame Rama's shortcomings on Kosovars at all, but I have noticed a predisposition of Kosovars for a preference of Berisha. You are basically regurgitating what one of the analysts in Baton Haxhiu's panel were saying. Where is the evidence for this rhetoric? A couple of posts on FB? Also please post some nationalist rhetoric from Berisha cause as far as I can recall Berisha only showed his "nationalism" in the early 90's when he expelled Yanulatos and banned Omonia, on which he reversed course within a week.

Rama does not dabble in nationalism, he's from the school of Real Politik. He needs to do what needs to be done as RA's PM. Nothing more nothing less. I can guarantee you that what you consider Nationalist rhetoric does not register at all with the electorate in Albania and won't move the needle at all for him. Anybody who's from RA will back me up on this.


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Well Albania joining Nato and the building of rruga e Kombit are some of Berisha's mandate highlights and Bush's visit in 2007 and his famous speech on Kosova's independence, come to mind. He milked the shit out of both these achievements. Didn't PS lobby against both Nato acceptance and rruga e Kombit according to Berisha ?

And tbh, right now, I'm quite foreign to this Albanian electorate(not moved by nationalism) you're talking about. You're saying that this confrontation with Greece won't get him more sympathisants in RA?!

[Albo_eagle]

My favourite politician in the RA.
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[Plako]

And tbh, right now, I'm quite foreign to this Albanian electorate(not moved by nationalism) you're talking about. You're saying that this confrontation with Greece won't get him more sympathisants in RA?!

I think his supporters may be galvanized a bit but I really doubt it'll move the needle much. I doubt anyone will be persuaded in Albania to cast a vote for Rama because of this "confrontation" with Greece. The main factor in Rama's re-election win will be his alliance with LSI and Ilir Meta. The DP is at its lowest point in its past 25 years and Lulzim Basha has proven ineffective as a leader.


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[Migjeni]

It's not because nationalism will make people vote for him. It's because these causes will defer attention from the economy which seems to be a weak point for Rama and his government and thus not harm them before the elections. We'll probably see many of these 'causes' in the time before elections.

The same is being done in Kosovë. All the bs regarding komb vs. perfaqesuese was to switch attention from the so-called Pronto-scandal.

#101 ruler techniques.

[Plako]

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[Aurora Bulkualis]

It's not because nationalism will make people vote for him. It's because these causes will defer attention from the economy which seems to be a weak point for Rama and his government and thus not harm them before the elections. We'll probably see many of these 'causes' in the time before elections.

The same is being done in Kosovë. All the bs regarding komb vs. perfaqesuese was to switch attention from the so-called Pronto-scandal.

#101 ruler techniques.

100%. Berisha did the same thing the last 3 months of the election. He saw he was going to lose and turned into a "nationalist".

I'm glad a lot of people are calling out Rama.

Well Albania joining Nato and the building of rruga e Kombit are some of Berisha's mandate highlights and Bush's visit in 2007 and his famous speech on Kosova's independence, come to mind. He milked the shit out of both these achievements.

In reality stuff like getting EU candidate status, or joining NATO, has nothing to do with the PMs even though guys like Berisha and Rama will milk the shit out of it.

[vata10]

And tbh, right now, I'm quite foreign to this Albanian electorate(not moved by nationalism) you're talking about. You're saying that this confrontation with Greece won't get him more sympathisants in RA?!

I think his supporters may be galvanized a bit but I really doubt it'll move the needle much. I doubt anyone will be persuaded in Albania to cast a vote for Rama because of this "confrontation" with Greece. The main factor in Rama's re-election win will be his alliance with LSI and Ilir Meta. The DP is at its lowest point in its past 25 years and Lulzim Basha has proven ineffective as a leader.


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I'm aware of Meta's importance in Albania's political scene and I agree that Berisha's puppet is no match for Rama right now. Considering all of this, I just can't understand this kind of aproach from Rama.

[vata10]

LOOOL i knew from the moment you said the word 'militants' that you were either a pdk or ldk 'loyal' person who cannot accept VV's rise. I am going to say ldk as they are the main one's who are refusing to acknowledge their party is here for no reason now as their support is completely gone. Shkurt e shqip jen parti kot.

As for 'don't kid yourself', you seem to be the one kiddimg yourself. I just gave you all the latest polls, if you were not to kid yourself you would of gave me some back and said you are wrong. Everything points to VV. You also said the public sector is the biggest employer, well my friend you sould know over 50% of people are unemployed in Kosovë.

Now i really do not need to convince you of the reality but if the big parties were not so scared of VV then why don't they just call snap elelctions to calm the public down? They are scared they will lose, each day it is worse for them.

Since i guess your a ldk person i want to tell you a little story. In the UK on the election year 2011 when the Lib Dems went into a coalition they had 57 seats and the next election had only 8. They lost 49. Ldk will follow the same fate. I promise you this. Every poll points to it and logic itself does as all they do is follow the command of pdk, so if any of their supporters agree they may aswell go to pdk and those who don't will come to the oposition.

Lastly, bringing up Ilir Deda really? No he is not a loss at all.

You're label me of being a loyal supporter of either Pdk or Ldk just for indicating that Vv militants might've voted the shit out of that poll and showing pessimism in Vv chances of winning elections in Kosove.

You're being even more ridiculous in comparing Kosovars to the British people .

I even read you quoting Rexhep Selimi one of the biggest crooks in Kosove, he's no different to the other war profiters.

LDK has lost many of their 'loyal' voters since they went in to the coalition with PDK, the problems with Vjosa Osmani, demarkacioni etc.

Ilir Deda is a conformist. He's not corrupt and he's smart, but his way of being a politician might be something for Kosova in 10 or 20 years. He's not going to change anything drastically. His way of doing politics belongs in a society where the law of the jungle isn't the most important law. Also he and his new party with Mimoza Kusari-Lila won't get a seat in parliament, I'm almost certain about that. The threshold to get into parliament requires 5% - they will - maaaybe - get 2-3% - but never 5%. That's going to hurt VV and might be essential for VV not coming first in the elections.

VV on the other hand has been very active and growing and I'm almost certain that almost all unsatisfied LDK and PDK voters will be voting VV this time around, while a small percentage will go to AAK-Nisma and maybe an even smaller percentage of those former LDK-voters will vote for AKR and Pacolli.

Well Kelmendi to Ldk means one more guaranteed deputy for them, that's if he runs for them in the next elections.

I'm quite sceptical that gjykata speciale will affect that much Pdk. Kadri Veseli making the jump to the leader of Pdk, indicates that they've been prepared to deal with gjykata speciale.

Imo, the Pdk-Ldk coalition is the worst thing that has happend to the political scene in Kosove, it has totally killed the competition and who is to say they won't do it in the future?!

And even if your prediction was to be true, Vv would still need to get more than double of the votes they got in the last elections and AAK & Nisma to grow numbers to grow too. And it would still be hard for the opposition to form a winning coalition, lead by Vv. Not to mention Rambo's aims for the PM spot.

The other option is one that hurts, Vv in a coalition with either Pdk or Ldk. So Albin Kurti in anyway would have to give up alot(like Mustafa), just to become the PM.

I'm all for the first scenario though, but very sceptical at the same time.

I only mentioned Ilir Deda because he'd bring them votes, ignored his views not suited to Vv eventhough it doesn't hurt to have someone with different views in democracy.


Could you elaborate what you mean by active and growing?

P.S. I don't think that Pacolli's party will pass the 5% threshold to get seats in the parliament.

[Plako]

It's not because nationalism will make people vote for him. It's because these causes will defer attention from the economy which seems to be a weak point for Rama and his government and thus not harm them before the elections. We'll probably see many of these 'causes' in the time before elections.

The same is being done in Kosovë. All the bs regarding komb vs. perfaqesuese was to switch attention from the so-called Pronto-scandal.

#101 ruler techniques.

I agree but this has happened in Himara several times in the last 25 years. This is not Rama picking a fight with Himara, this Athens and Dule trying to make a meal out of nothing as is their policy. The same thing happened a while ago over a "monastery" Rama demolished and Rama tore Dule a new one. Will Rama gain some positive momentum now over this? Yes, but the elections are next Summer.

Rama thrives in these type of situations. He loves to engage in these type of debates and usually comes out ahead as this is what he loves to do.


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