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[Migjeni]

Majority of those attending the Bajram prayers anywhere are not regulars, so it doesn't really say much. Edhe ne Kosove gjate kohes se Jugosllavise islamin e kane mbajte me nje ramazan dhe dy bajrame dhe ndoshta ndonje synet gjate vitit ku ka shku hoxha dhe ju ka fole pak.

[Plako]

You guys don't sense a growth in practising muslims in RA?

Yes there is definitely growth but like I mentioned above it's mostly confined to Central Albania. Bear in mind there was a quasi Islamic Revolution in these parts by Haxhi Qamili a century ago demanding reunion with the Ottoman Empire and the imposition of Sharia Law. The people you see today embracing Islam again are their offsprings.

This would have been frowned upon a decade ago.

http://www.mapo.al/2016/10/tirana-ne-da ... lery_photo

This extremist ideology has its roots in the early 90's with all sorts of Middle easterners allowed in the country. I know at least two people who starting attending "classes" as teens and were brainwashed by these fucks (Syrians and Kuwaitis mostly). They are noticeable by the Capri pants they wear so shejtani is not trapped in their pants

I have to say I did not notice any of this in my visit there but then again I was mostly confined to the better parts of Tirana. But when the topic came up with my cousins as we were passing through the new Mosque he shook his head in desperation so things are definitely not good.


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[Plako]

To me this rise in religious feelings is explained by the ideological vacuum created by the fall of Communism, pervasive poverty and the loss of faith in the new political class that is full of thieves and mafiosi. As a poor person who do you look up to for moral guidance? Where do you look up for role models? Very easy to turn to an imam/priest.


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[vata10]

You guys don't sense a growth in practising muslims in RA?

Yes there is definitely growth but like I mentioned above it's mostly confined to Central Albania. Bear in mind there was a quasi Islamic Revolution in these parts by Haxhi Qamili a century ago demanding reunion with the Ottoman Empire and the imposition of Sharia Law. The people you see today embracing Islam again are their offsprings.

This would have been frowned upon a decade ago.

http://www.mapo.al/2016/10/tirana-ne-da ... lery_photo

This extremist ideology has its roots in the early 90's with all sorts of Middle easterners allowed in the country. I know at least two people who starting attending "classes" as teens and were brainwashed by these fucks (Syrians and Kuwaitis mostly). They are noticeable by the Capri pants they wear so shejtani is not trapped in their pants

I have to say I did not notice any of this in my visit there but then again I was mostly confined to the better parts of Tirana. But when the topic came up with my cousins as we were passing through the new Mosque he shook his head in desperation so things are definitely not good.


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It happens to me too when I visit Kosove. I'm only interested in enjoying my stay there and I only see the get to see the good stuff.

Kosova was like, Migjeni, said it, before 99, most of Kosovars respected the basics of the religion.

All the 'charity' organizations that entered Kosove after the war did their part, not only Arab though, as you had western ones spreading the bible and christian doctrines too.

Here's a rap song that explains how things were after the war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaeHLHZrnEQ

My experience with RA muslims is mostly with those from the south. You might be right with describing those in Central Albania.

And marrying in a Mosque is a new thing too, it might've been normal before communism though.

[Migjeni]

Hate BimBimma. He's a dick. A friend and I almost had a fight with him and two other guys because they were trying to force two young girls up an apartment.

There's a historical flaw in the way Albanians in Kosova view religion, and the same can be said about those in Albania, but I'm not as familiar with the way it is perceived in Albania.

In Kosovë people talk about 'islami tradicional' but rarely do they know what they're talking about. This idea that Albanian islam was somehow different from others comes only after Communism played an important part in changing the practice and view of religion.

Our generations view the veil and covering up as an anomaly because Communism kinda forbade it. So we've been raised to see women without the veil and not covered up like they are many other places where Muslims live. But look at older pictures before Communism and the women look like something from the Middle East. So which 'islam tradicional' are they talking about?

The poverty of history is scary in Albanian lands. This goes for many other things too, not just religion. We've discussed this before with UCK, Isa Boletini and others.

[Albo_eagle]

Bimbimma is awful. He tries to enter political issues and ends up saying nothing.

Gold AG and Unikkatili are wayyy better.

[vata10]

gold ag and unikkatil???

albo_eagle, how old are you, for real?!

[Albo_eagle]

Unikkatil is the biggest rapper to come out of Kosovë. So i have no idea what you are trying to say? He is not my favourite but some of his stuff is dope.
For any Albanian who hasn't heard it https://youtu.be/1Gz6bIkVPf0

Gold AG is the smartest rapper who really only touches on two themes, patriotism and religion.
https://youtu.be/Wy3wNpggDAU

You brought up Bimbimma and then talked about age which i find very wierd. Gold AG talking about Prekaz, Eulex, Ramush Haradinaj's trial and corruption in government is considered childish as opposed to Bimbimma shouting shqipet nalt for a whole song?
Some very flawed logic.

[Aurora Bulkualis]

It ain't the 'Kosovars'. It's Albanians from Albania who are religious. Deal with it.

What? I was talking about the prayers in Tirana. The majority are from Central Albania (Tirana, Elbasan, Pogradec). But a big part of them are Muslims who moved to Tirana in the 90s. At least that's what I heard when I asked about it, but it could be anecdotal.

Also with the prayers I think the peak in attendance was around 2014. This year I heard there was a decline (maybe they were scared of something ). They had to spread out people to make it seem like they were covering a lot of distance.

[Aurora Bulkualis]

To me this rise in religious feelings is explained by the ideological vacuum created by the fall of Communism, pervasive poverty and the loss of faith in the new political class that is full of thieves and mafiosi. As a poor person who do you look up to for moral guidance? Where do you look up for role models? Very easy to turn to an imam/priest.


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This whole Albania re-becoming religious is vastly exaggerated by media/social media imo. The number of non-religious people outnumbers people who practice religion at least 2:1 (I think in reality it's probably 5:1)