CAS Reverses Serbia-Albania Loss

[Simboli i Diellit]

Lol they didn't decide :

The CAS arbitrators are now in the deliberation process and will later start drafting the respective final awards which are expected to be issued before the next qualifying match for the EURO 2016 (group I) on 13 June 2015. The CAS will not comment any further at this time.

http://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-infor ... t-cas.html

[IndritFieri]

I assume this is promising news since the case is more complex that it seems.

[Plako]

I assume this is promising news since the case is more complex that it seems.

Agreed, the longer it takes the better our chances, although I'm not holding much hope.


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[Dallku]

By reading what De Biasi, Cana, etc said in court.. I see that they basically made it a "We were too scared to continue" case rather than "ref never told us to continue" one.

Now you gotta hope that the jury feels sorry for them but the odds surely are not good. My prediction is that the decision will stand.

[Aurora Bulkualis]

By reading what De Biasi, Cana, etc said in court.. I see that they basically made it a "We were too scared to continue" case rather than "ref never told us to continue" one.

Now you gotta hope that the jury feels sorry for them but the odds surely are not good. My prediction is that the decision will stand.

You know playing with an empty stadium was not an option right? I'm sure the judges are going to agree the players shouldn't have gone back there. If they take the whole month, it means they're thoroughly evaluating everything. UEFA collected their evidence a day before the decision. I.E. They made their decision, and then heard the "evidence".

Unless it's against the rules for CAS to mess around with ref's decisions, something will change.

[Albanian Damien]

See I think this case hinges on at whether declining to play is automatically considered a forfeit. For example I heard that Atkinson simply offered the players to replay the game in an empty stadium. Now, if the CAS looks at it as what the reasonable person would have done then it's clear the Albanians had no business returning to the field. They had NO guarantee of safety. When the people hired to protect the players are the ones fighting them then it doesn't matter wether the doors were closed or not. Now if Cana/FSFH had signed a piece of paper declaring the forfeit as was alleged a while back then unfortunately all this seems to be for nothing. However, if Atkinson simply asked the players if they wished to continue then that's declining to play which should not be considered a forfeit under these circumstances. FSFH has an obligation to protect it's players and coaches and it fulfilled that obligation. IF the CAS is reasonable then they will give Albania the 3 points. The only hope we can hold onto is that this is an international committee and not just European so hopefully there isn't the type of partisanship corruption you would typically see.

Also I went to the wikipedia page and it said this:

"The court is reluctant to overturn field of play decisions, though it may do so in cases where there is clear evidence that the officials acted in bad faith." So that means even if Atkinson did rule that the game must resume the lawyers would have to prove he was acting in bad faith. That is by far one of the hardest things to prove in any court. Now bad faith isn't just an intentional deception onto others but can also be defined as self-deception. Atkinson may have truly believed that the game was fit to continue. But if he didn't acknowledge that the stewards and police also attacked players then he is deceiving himself, which in turn makes his decision one of bad faith which could conceivably net Albania the points.

However, since we are only Albania unfortunately we should enter the situation assuming the very worst, which is that we get nothing. If there was any justice in this world then this would be the place for it but it is hard to understand the politics involved.

[Aurora Bulkualis]

For example I heard that Atkinson simply offered the players to replay the game in an empty stadium.

I just mentioned that wasn't an option. UEFA had sent a match delegate there, and he said that that's not permissible.

[Plako]

By reading what De Biasi, Cana, etc said in court.. I see that they basically made it a "We were too scared to continue" case rather than "ref never told us to continue" one.

Now you gotta hope that the jury feels sorry for them but the odds surely are not good. My prediction is that the decision will stand.

No way we get 3 points out of that game. I wish we could have a replay to be honest but not sure how likely that is.


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[Shpati]

By reading what De Biasi, Cana, etc said in court.. I see that they basically made it a "We were too scared to continue" case rather than "ref never told us to continue" one.

Now you gotta hope that the jury feels sorry for them but the odds surely are not good. My prediction is that the decision will stand.

I was hoping they wouldn't try to get sympathy. Instead, give facts and details on why they didn't continue. Sympathy doesn't change the evidence and facts, which the CAS needs in order to overrule UEFA's decision.

[Simboli i Diellit]

New Provokacja , "One of their journals quoting a guy from TKZ saying to Serbs:" If they come to Albania they'll go back to Serbia inside coffans" .