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Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:24 pm
by Princ
I am against both suspensions!
That being said, Germany has “laws” banning hate speech.
What Daku did was way worse!
Demiral got suspended for the equivalent of an Albanian doing the eagle!
Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:20 pm
by Simboli i Diellit
Princ wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:24 pm
I am against both suspensions!
That being said, Germany has “laws” banning hate speech.
What Daku did was way worse!
Demiral got suspended for the equivalent of an Albanian doing the eagle!
How can it be equivalent of doing the eagle? Turks killed millions of Armenians and Christians during first WW.
Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:40 pm
by Princ
Simboli i Diellit wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:20 pm
How can it be equivalent of doing the eagle? Turks killed millions of Armenians and Christians during first WW.
So?
Demiral has every right to be proud of his identity as a Turk!
It was not a political symbol he made, but a Turkish nationalist symbol!
Just as the eagle is an Albanian nationalist symbol..
Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:49 pm
by Princ
Slam dunk 0-1!!
Let’s go Turkey!
Bring it home for your boy!
Hope they win it all after this injustice against them!
Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:33 am
by Redijupison
Princ wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:40 pm
Simboli i Diellit wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:20 pm
How can it be equivalent of doing the eagle? Turks killed millions of Armenians and Christians during first WW.
So?
Demiral has every right to be proud of his identity as a Turk!
It was not a political symbol he made, but a Turkish nationalist symbol!
Just as the eagle is an Albanian nationalist symbol..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wo ... anization)
See, nothing alike with the eagle hand gesture Albanians do!
Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:41 am
by Princ
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_salute
The wolf gesture does not belong to that group..
It has been used by Turks for centuries!
Imagine if a political organization started doing the Albanian eagle..
Would that mean an Albanian player deserves a suspension for doing it too?
Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:17 am
by Redijupison
Princ wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:41 am
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_salute
The wolf gesture does not belong to that group..
It has been used by Turks for centuries!
Imagine if a political organization started doing the Albanian eagle..
Would that mean an Albanian player deserves a suspension for doing it too?
Yes, if an Albanian organization would start killing innocent ppl of other ethnicities in the name of nationalism and would have the eagle hand gesture as their symbol, then normal Albanians wouldn't want to associate with it and it would become problematic. That won't happen though as the eagle hand gesture has no historical meaning and is associated to the albanian flag. The wolf salute should be compared to the serb three fingers and nazi salutes. They all have hateful meanings in them.
Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:59 pm
by Dallku
Looks like Sylvinho will stay.
Ironically, doing favors in the Euros actually hurt him from getting offers. He hurt himself more.
Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:37 pm
by Plako
Dallku wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:59 pm
Looks like Sylvinho will stay.
Ironically, doing favors in the Euros actually hurt him from getting offers. He hurt himself more.
What possible offers could he have had that got hurt by his Euro resutls?
Re: Albanian National Team [General topic]
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:40 am
by Aurora Bulkualis
Interesting interview from Sulejman Starova. He said youth football training is pretty much nonexistent in Albania. All those youth "academies" are a farce according to him.
https://youtu.be/7hKiEKlYswI?t=4665
I've said this stuff for a while, but it's nice to hear from someone who was a part of the system. This is for Princ & co who blame "genetics"
